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Cranium
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:41 am    Post subject:  My logo Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Any suggestions on how to improve this? God I think I need a new photo editor program, PSP9 just isnt cutting it anymore. Confused



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Frontlines
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What's wrong with the current one you're using in your sig/avatar?

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lefthand
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

- Get rid of the sparkly green things...you don't need it. Plus the green line things on the side.

- Change the font used for "venomrage." I know, in photoshop, you can do so much more with that.

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gamefreak11221
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I can make you a new logo text for you, I'll do your "VENOMRAGE" Text but any subtitles?

Edit:
Just curious, Cranium's Building SHPs has a good textures but why when it comes in making logos, your talent seems to get disturbed?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Photoshop?

The Pirate Bay > MAGNiTUDE Adobe CS3. Smile

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gamefreak11221
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There are portables too which i usually use, BTW! Since I'm still working on concept designs for my mod, I've decided to make the Venom Rage logo for you Cranium!

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Done! Tell me what you think about it, I can change it if you want to!


I also made a subtitle marking, tell me what should i put there or delete it.

Don't forget to credit me if used officially!
(Almost took me an hour deciding on the vector styles)

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Nikademis Von Hisson
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i like Cranium's better, mo...minus the green x's

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Orac
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Minimalism is always easier to do right. Keep the number of effects and elements to the bare minimum, to keep any one of them from crowding out the others.

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CCHyper
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A logo must work in its most basic form, single colour and as Orac said, the minimal amount of effects should he considered.

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Graion Dilach
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, simplicity makes wonders, this is why I have this (I asked the font to be made by a photoshopper but the rest is my sketch)



Tho that three blinks are interesting idea, they are just too big and they should be less saturated to blend in nicely.

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Simplicity is best. O.K.

Should I have a background or leave as is? "black background"

@gamefreak, thanks for the attempt, but I'm gonna stick with the Original RA2/YR style.

@lefthand, which font should I use, This is currently Chisel Wide. Thats what RA2 uses isnt it?

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Starkku
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think Red Alert logo font is from Futura font family or something very similar at least. Hyper probably knows for sure, though.

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, hyper told me once, and there actually is a thread here discussing the RA2 font but I cant find it Confused

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CCHyper
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Futura family is indeed the C&C typeface, I think it was at 175% width too in the RA logos.

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

is it just Futura, or is it Futura something something?
I remember you mentioning Chisel, what is the chisel font used for?

This is the font I'm after..v



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CCHyper
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I meant that its part of the Futura family. That font is Futura Black or something, use common sense to find out #Tongue

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

CCHyper wrote:
use common sense to find out


lol, hey I'm not one of those people who dont try things out before speaking, unless it's something complex and would waste alot of time doing it to find out it isnt possible. Razz

I have like 12 different futura fonts, but none seem to look anything like this font. Some look close, but dont have the 3d'ish bevel look to it. Or do I have to add the 3d'ish bevel look myself?

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

When does any font have any kind of bevel effect? You'll need to add it yourself and as Hyper said earlier the text may well need to be stretched length ways.

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Orac
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cranium wrote:
is it just Futura, or is it Futura something something?
I remember you mentioning Chisel, what is the chisel font used for?

IIRC a Chisel font is used for the Tiberian Sun logo.

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OmegaBolt wrote:
When does any font have any kind of bevel effect?


I've seen lots of texts have bevels and such. There are 3d'ish fonts out there. I have a few them "3d fonts" but not what I'm looking for.

Maybe I can make this simpler. Anybody have the text used for this that they can upload?

I've actually found a strikingly similiar font, but they wanted $40.00 for the download. And I cant find a free version of it. Ah well, if no one has it, I'll keep seraching for it. Bound to pop up somewhere.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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Cranium
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I made this in 3dsmax. Hows it look?

@Hyper, yeah I fgured as much. I actually made this before I just read your post about being made in a 3d environment. Smile But I used Chisel Wide on this text. I'll try one with the link you provided. Thanks alot for your help Hyper.

I think I put to much bevel though Laughing



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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Darkstorm
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think it looks great, but the green hue on the metal seems way too bright without some lighting effect.

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Orac
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd lok at Joshy's World of Insanity logo for ideas if that's the direction you're wanting to go, with the sharp extensions.

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, I was pushing more towards the extention type stuff, but This is what I have now. Though the texture on the text is due to change.
I also thought about making the bottom middle of the "M" letter come to a point like a hyperdermic needle and apply some type of rain drop effect to mimic venom coming out, but I dont know. I'll try it and see what it looks like.



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m7
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It feels noisy. The insides have too much going on, and the larger letters look out of place.

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gamefreak11221
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ok, wish you luck! Oh, when will you release a beta version of your mod Cranium?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Replace the crappy YR background stuff. Doesn't suit your letters and means you can't rescale the logo without losing quality.

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gamefreak11221
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OmegaBolt wrote:
Replace the crappy YR background stuff. Doesn't suit your letters and means you can't rescale the logo without losing quality.


agreed! Laughing

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

look better now?

I'd rather keep the RA2/YR background, since this is based upon it. Somewhat anyway Laughing



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Cranium
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This one here was my original plan, but didnt think anyone would like it.



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CCHyper
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Better, but get rid of the YR chevron and the extension on the "M"

Create something new for yourself.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

CCHyper wrote:
Better, but get rid of the YR chevron and the extension on the "M"

Create something new for yourself.


This. Start from scratch, and try to be original, don't copy stuff...

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ok, heres my first attempt at making my own style. I actually quite like it.



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gamefreak11221
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The C&C logo doesn't match to it at all, too much blacks and greens and the fonts should be changed

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks too much like the hotwheels logo or something. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You cna use my premade logo's PSD and modify it by your self, even though you still need more practices to do in PS, i mentioned that you can do things that others couldn't

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Nikademis Von Hisson
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I like your sig minus the green x looking items

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