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Ixith
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:56 am    Post subject:  hrmm interesting...
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Well...there's a slight chance some of you in the states may have seen/heard about this. I don't know how far this has gotten out but it's pretty much all I can see on facebook right now as it deals with my old highschool.

Law Suit against My highschool for supposed 'discrimination' of a gay kid - HuffingtonPost (who is IMO typically way too biased but this article isn't too bad on the bais)

A More generic news article that's more local to the area

I'd like to hear this communities comments on it. I'll add input after a few comments.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's Ohio. I don't expect anything brilliant to come out of there. No offense of course, Ix. I'm just baffled that people are still offended by anti-homophobia messages. I'm still baffled that people can still be so anti-gay in this day and age. Shit like this makes me wonder why some people can't grow the ztype up and get over themselves.

Maybe I'm alone in that.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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It's Ohio. I don't expect anything brilliant to come out of there. No offense of course, Ix. I'm just baffled that people are still offended by anti-homophobia messages. I'm still baffled that people can still be so anti-gay in this day and age. Shit like this makes me wonder why some people can't grow the ztype up and get over themselves.

Maybe I'm alone in that.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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It's Ohio. I don't expect anything brilliant to come out of there. No offense of course, Ix. I'm just baffled that people are still offended by anti-homophobia messages. I'm still baffled that people can still be so anti-gay in this day and age. Shit like this makes me wonder why some people can't grow the ztype up and get over themselves.

With each passing generation the world becomes closer to equality for all humans. When an older generation dies, fewer people will be anti-gay/black/women/whatever until everyone is perfectly content living in a world where there is no prejudice. It just takes time unfortunately.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the world is and countinues to be a shithole , cause there are assholes in every generation.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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It's Ohio. I don't expect anything brilliant to come out of there. No offense of course, Ix. I'm just baffled that people are still offended by anti-homophobia messages. I'm still baffled that people can still be so anti-gay in this day and age. Shit like this makes me wonder why some people can't grow the ztype up and get over themselves.

With each passing generation the world becomes closer to equality for all humans. When an older generation dies, fewer people will be anti-gay/black/women/whatever until everyone is perfectly content living in a world where there is no prejudice. It just takes time unfortunately.


Wrong. I'm looking at these "newer" generations who don't know what the ztype nazism is, yet they support it and have these racist opinions and whatnot.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If our bodies were meant to be bisexual, I wouldn't care if guys liked guys or girls liked girls. But we did not evolve to be that way. They only endanger our life, but then again, I'd rather not have more like them on this planet anyway. [In one point of view, they're somewhat saving it since that's less humans being produced on the planet?]

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

But evolution has had no hold on us since we became conscious animals. You must acknowledge and accept that we are far more than biological material with no choice in the matter (else we wouldn't being having this discussion).

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OmegaBolt wrote:
But evolution has had no hold on us since we became conscious animals. You must acknowledge and accept that we are far more than biological material with no choice in the matter (else we wouldn't being having this discussion).


Evolution is a process that we're destroying if you think about it. [this is going off-topic as I don't really care tat much to talk about gays]

All these... "Advancements" we have in technology, science, medical, etc, do things for our body, thus our body doesn't need to evolve/adapt. So, in turn, we'll never be better than what we currently are, since we limit ourselves to what we have now, and will have in the future.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Clazzy wrote:
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It's Ohio. I don't expect anything brilliant to come out of there. No offense of course, Ix. I'm just baffled that people are still offended by anti-homophobia messages. I'm still baffled that people can still be so anti-gay in this day and age. Shit like this makes me wonder why some people can't grow the ztype up and get over themselves.

With each passing generation the world becomes closer to equality for all humans. When an older generation dies, fewer people will be anti-gay/black/women/whatever until everyone is perfectly content living in a world where there is no prejudice. It just takes time unfortunately.


Or not. If the old generations raise up their children with their anti-whatever POV then it can happen that the amount ioof these haters stays the same or even raise.

Especially if the media supports it.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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[In one point of view, they're somewhat saving it since that's less humans being produced on the planet?]


Forget the numbers, we already are too many. Think at the next thing: Think at how many ORPHANS we have in our orphanages. Think at that. How about we solve that problem and try to have some more intelligent beings.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Frontlines wrote:
If our bodies were meant to be bisexual, I wouldn't care if guys liked guys or girls liked girls. But we did not evolve to be that way. They only endanger our life, but then again, I'd rather not have more like them on this planet anyway. [In one point of view, they're somewhat saving it since that's less humans being produced on the planet?]

Really? You're going to make this argument? I resent that remark since I swing every damn direction imaginable and it's nothing new. Hell, this is found in nature anyway so I suppose the whole "it's not natural" argument falls apart pretty damn quickly.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdmdthHxwzY&feature=related[/youtube]

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

FurryQueen wrote:
Frontlines wrote:
If our bodies were meant to be bisexual, I wouldn't care if guys liked guys or girls liked girls. But we did not evolve to be that way. They only endanger our life, but then again, I'd rather not have more like them on this planet anyway. [In one point of view, they're somewhat saving it since that's less humans being produced on the planet?]

Really? You're going to make this argument? I resent that remark since I swing every damn direction imaginable and it's nothing new. Hell, this is found in nature anyway so I suppose the whole "it's not natural" argument falls apart pretty damn quickly.


Just because it happens in nature, doesn't mean anything. Our bodies evolved to be physically heterosexual. If the being who a dumb enough mind or poor mental health, chooses to be gay, that's their own fault.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blubb wrote:
*insert Sin with Sebastian here*


NOT! THAT! GUY!

*runs away in fear* One song is enough to be heard from him. Because Shut Up (And Sleep With Me) is a wut but it was on one of my mixture cassettes which I continously listened due to the rest of the songs.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Frontlines wrote:
Just because it happens in nature, doesn't mean anything. Our bodies evolved to be physically heterosexual. If the being who a dumb enough mind or poor mental health, chooses to be gay, that's their own fault.
Are you serious?



My point earlier was that we as a species are much more than physical matter. Men have penises which can be stuck anywhere. The fact our brain can decide where surely means there is no physicality in it at all, it is entirely in the mind.

You know what I can't even be bothered to finish this but imma post it anyway.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Just because it happens in nature, doesn't mean anything. Our bodies evolved to be physically heterosexual. If the being who a dumb enough mind or poor mental health, chooses to be gay, that's their own fault.

Yes, because sexuality is a goddamn choice and everyone ztyping knows it. You know, I'm sick of this argument because it's not a choice, has not been a choice and will never be a choice. There are those of us who are just wired differently for no other reason than we're different. I didn't ask to be this way; it just comes as a realization for some, like it did for me. And to be perfectly blunt, I'm glad I'm not "straight" or exclusively hetero, which just about no one is anyway. I'd rather be this than some idiot who thinks being gay, bi, pan or whatever is a fucking choice.

And while we're on the subject, just to let you know, I'm not stupid, nor do I have mental health issues. I'm in the minority of Americans who isn't on any anti-depressants, anti-psych meds or some other mood elevating drug. And guess what? I'm still pansexual... and a few other things too, but they're not up for discussion.

Hey Frontlines, do me a favor: take your head out of your ass, open your eyes and do some research. The fifties are over. It's 2012. Time to grow up.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Frontlines wrote:
They only endanger our life


The ztype? How?

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So, in turn, we'll never be better than what we currently are, since we limit ourselves to what we have now, and will have in the future.


Frontline. You are the mentally unstable one, here. Evolution is irrelevant to us, since we have such a small life span, as natural evolution takes thousands if not millions of years. It's irrelevant to us. It's up to us to achieve the next step through our own ways, and thus enforced sexuality is irrelevant to it.

Seriously, you are making me agree with Fen. That's a ztyping achievement right there, and a good sign that you are an idiot.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

well i kinda figured the discussion here would go this way in talking about sexual preference and if it's right/wrong and what not but i had a slight hope it'd be more over the decision the school made if it was okay/stupid and whether or not it's a wise choice for a kid to sue the school over it.

Here's my overview of the situation, keeping in mind that I personally don't care whatever sexual preferences anyone has and would be considered straight myself.

The decision to tell this kid he can't wear the shirt that said 'Jesus Was Not a Homophobe' is rather stupid. Had it been on grounds of it was a religious message and they told others who wore Jesus paraphernalia they couldn't wear that stuff then it would have been justified.
But...for the kid (although I believe now that I've heard it was his parents) to contact a group like Lambda Legal and file a lawsuit to sue the school is going overboard on the issue and does nothing but hurt the school and the community. As now my town will probably get regarded as 'that town that hates gays' and due to the fact they want money, for 'unknown nominal damages' which supposedly this Lambda Legal hit a school last year for the same type of issue for 1 million USD, that the school district is going to have to lay off teachers who had nothing to do with the incident and also cut various programs such as sports or make it an extremely high pay to play cost. All because the kid and his family couldn't think of any better ways to remedy this situation.
So part of me...wants to say go kid for fighting for your so called rights. The other part of me wants to say hey kid...ztype you for potentially ztyping up our local school district and perhaps even giving our community a bad name.

so yea that's more the types of comments i was hoping for but this is pretty entertaining too.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blubb wrote:
*insert Sin with Sebastian here*


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My buddy FurryQueen is learning to punch me through the Internet right now for posting this, but...

Honestly, that school district deserves the bad publicity. If I were that kid's family, I wouldn't sue, but that's only because suing the government is a useless endeavor (you're literally asking the government to punish itself. YYYYEEEEAAAHHHHH like that's gonna work). I'd just drag their name through as much mud as possible by going to the newspapers. That's usually more effective anyway, as it prevents people from moving there, thus preventing money from coming in.

...But since we're on the topic of sexuality, what do I know? I'm a RAINBOW for crying out loud. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If I remember correctly Jesus himself said nothing about homosexuality so I guess he was not a homophobe, I'm surprised people are still so anti-homosexual these days.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Evolution is a process that we're destroying if you think about it.

Evolution takes such a long time that it's pretty hard to credit us with 'destroying' it. Phenotypes become more frequent, phenotypes become less frequent. Who knows which phenotypes will survive the next million years? Evolution has been around for an awful long time, and has acted on us ever since we 'became' humans. It acted on us when we were Afarensis, when we were Habilis, when we were Ergaster, when we were Erectus. Homo sapiens now differ in bone structure from their 500 000 year old ancestors (ancestors who were also Homo sapiens. They are classed as Archaic Homo sapiens). This means that evolution in a real sense was still visibly occuring over the course of our human history after we learned to communicate with language, formed complex societies, developed tool use, and had settled into semi-nomadic lifestyles.

Evolution is alive and kicking. If you don't notice it, don't worry - your decendants in 500 000 years will. #Tongue

Homosexuality is, from that perspective, only removing a little bit of genetic material from the possible pool - and who are we to argue?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Then why are humans not the only species who engage in same-sex activities?

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Deformat wrote:
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Then why are humans not the only species who engage in same-sex activities?


Pigeons also do necrophilia.

Some clans of orangutans have reportedly been lesbians due to the lack of male in their clans.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Just because it happens in nature, doesn't mean anything. Our bodies evolved to be physically heterosexual. If the being who a dumb enough mind or poor mental health, chooses to be gay, that's their own fault.


Congrats
I've been a member here for almost a decade, and that is quite probably the most distasteful worse thing I have ever seen posted here

Oh and stupid

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Frontlines wrote:


Just because it happens in nature, doesn't mean anything. Our bodies evolved to be physically heterosexual. If the being who a dumb enough mind or poor mental health, chooses to be gay, that's their own fault.


What the hell are you talking about? Do you really have any clue at all? People do whatever they want with their body. You don't need to agree, but you have to accept it. If someone decides to have a gay relationship, it's their business only. It doesn't prevent them to reproduce or eventually have a hetero relationship later. For most people, over 90% of any kind of sexual act they have, does not result in children (people may simulate sexual actions, use condoms, pills during the sex or do sex when the woman is not in a reproductive period, among other things).

Gay relationship is an option... which I do not take. I'm a male who is very happy with my girl friend. But if other people decide to have a gay relationship, it's simply their business. It's not a dumb attitude, it's just an option. Do not expect to make a children everytime you have sex.

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