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Muldrake
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:18 pm    Post subject:  RA2 Intro Movie Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Okay, I'm sure many know of the units which never made it into the final game, these include the Soviet Hydrofoil, Corkscrew Transport, and several other designs.
Well, after watching the intro movie again randomly, I noticed several of these units. I'm sure everyone has seen the Corkscrew transports unloading the apocalypse tanks, so nothing new there. But, if you notice on the scene with the Dreadnoughts are firing their missiles near a bridge. If you look down next to the ships, you can just see a Hydrofoil coming out from behind the other Dreadnoughts, and launching a couple of missiles too.
And finally something else which I'm sure someone has noticed is when the V3's and Apocalypses are driving across the screen, one of the tanks.. or vehicles looks like a Flak Track, but with mini-V3 missiles instead of a flak cannon.

Okay just randomness. But its nice to see them.

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Captain Sword
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

WTF is a corkscrew transport?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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FireStorm
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lol.. it's a open-top transport kinda thing i think... i've made a vxl out of it... it was sadly long gone along with Editing Source Sad

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Muldrake
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So has anyone actually seen these other things in the Intro movie?



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Banshee
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the middle one is dreadnought, as far as I know... and the botton ones are V3 Rocket... the top one is really not buildable in game as it has wheels... O.o

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W/P
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if theres concept art ther must be some concept voxels too!!
or at least i know you can get concept TS voxels because i based my tracked buggy in one.

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FireStorm
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeap.. WeeRaby2k made a voxel for the Hydrofoil.. it rocks, i think you can get it at YR Argentina.. at the Voxels section under Naval... i think...

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darkness
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

They should have left the Sea Scorpian/Wolf as it was in the intro...(the hydrofoil)...and they should have included the MLRS too...(bottem pics)
If you listen to the Sea Scorpian voices you can kinda tell that it got changed...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banshee wrote:
the middle one is dreadnought, as far as I know... and the botton ones are V3 Rocket... the top one is really not buildable in game as it has wheels... O.o


The one on the top is definetly a corkscrew transport... and was replaced with a hover transport in the game. I can't recall exactly what the hydrofoil concept art looks like, so I can't help you there. And there is definetly something else there besides a v3 rocket launcher, although it seems like a smaller rocket... can't tell what it is.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

FireStorm wrote:
lol.. it's a open-top transport kinda thing i think... i've made a vxl out of it... it was sadly long gone along with Editing Source Sad


which Editing Source?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

definitely not arm-ent.... the Original Editing Source...

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Muldrake
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banshee wrote:
the middle one is dreadnought, as far as I know... and the botton ones are V3 Rocket... the top one is really not buildable in game as it has wheels... O.o


The middle ones do show two hydrofoils.. the big fans give it away. Like I said, use these pictures to find the position in the film. Watch the film and see for yourself.
If you look at these, and some of the concept art you can see the main theme of the soviets.. missiles galor. The apocalyspe's missiles were originally like mini-v3, rather than the missile rack (box) we've come to know. Also, this aa-truck and hydofoil also show the use of these missiles.

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SMIFFGIG
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This very old screenie shows alot of beta stuff that was changed or not included in the release, including the hydrofoils

http://www.planetcnc.com/redalert2/gameinfo/imagegallery/in-game10.jpg

My God the game actually likes quite good in this screeny

Something ive just noticed in it, the Infantry shadows are TS style and actually look decent and detailed

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W/P
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

WOW! is that actual game art or a mod? The graphics are more like TS than red alert. was the original using ts engines?

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Captain Sword
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

RA2 uses TS engine. Beta usually look better then the release anyway. I'm not sure why but they do. BTW I don't see how the infantary looks better it's just shaded looking.

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SMIFFGIG
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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RA2 uses TS engine

No RA2 uses an edited TS engine which is toned down, the TS engine is more powerful than RA2's (with deformable terrain for instance)
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Beta usually look better then the release anyway

In WW's case yes, probably partly to do with the fact they want people to be interested in the game and buy it, making screenies with cool (but fake) explosions and features is a way to do this.

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BTW I don't see how the infantary looks better it's just shaded looking

Ive seen this pic a million times and thought I had noticed everything, but just recently noticed this.
If u dont know what i mean, look at RA2 infantry SHP and then look at TS infantry SHP (using XCC). Also look ingame RA2 and compare to ingame TS.
Not only are shadows part of the unit in RA2 (and not a seperatation of it) they are incredibly un-detailed. Most are just a shadowed spot UNLIKE this beta screenie.....

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lol... I got this image up at CnC Central, it was included in the fansite kit that westwood released... I'm trying to find a fansite kit for TS, I would like some beta screenies...

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Kravvitz
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't like the pre-release Nuclear Power Plant as much as the release one. But the rest of the stuff looks good. Some of those pre-release buildings are available on some Modding Resource sites.

the_kid wrote:
lol... I got this image up at CnC Central, it was included in the fansite kit that westwood released... I'm trying to find a fansite kit for TS, I would like some beta screenies...


There are fansite kits for RA2 and Renegade (and Emperor), but I can't find one for TS. When I was poking around the Westwood Public FTP site I didn't find one for TS and my quick Google search turned up nothing. But by all means have a look and if you do find it please tell me. Very Happy

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SMIFFGIG
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There is no official fansite kit for TS Confused

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yuris weapon looks rubbish! Also the apocalipse (i think) looks like the pre-relese rhino in the vxl forum! and isnt that an allied warminer?? Confused

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lol the radar looks kewl, but WDF IS YURI DOIN! lol it looks like hes firin the ufo weapon

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darkness
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

FYI this topic was 8 or 9 months old, that was an old mind control anim, and didn't ra2 originally use openGL?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No. I think we've been over this before.

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