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N.Korea declares war against USA
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CCHyper
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fuck the lot of you, you all suck!

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Also ironic that the US is very famously the only nation to have used nukes in warfare. I just hope tens of thousands of N. Koreans aren't massacred like in the middle east. It's ztyping sickening.

Of course it would be equally bad if that happened to the US, you just know that it won't...

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Scorched Earth
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Why the hell is everyone comparing another war with NK to Afghanistan or Vietnam when it'll be the same exact way it was last time; the Soviet-style bumrush of hundreds of thousands of troops. NK may not have the best technologies, but everyone overlooks the fact that they have a ztyping massive army. If it did come down to war, they wouldn't resort to guerilla tactics.

And, another thing - if NK did have the balls to nuke SK, they would be indirectly nuking the US, in a sense. Last I checked, hitting American bases with nuclear arms is still hitting US property and killing Americans, no matter where it is in the world. At that point, I would personally have no problem getting deployed to NK and killing some motherfuckers, and that's probably because the idiots killed my buddies in the first place.

Also, did someone just say NK has never attacked anyone? What are you smoking? They've attacked SK every single year since the cease-fire in same way or fashion. I seem to recall the sinking of a SK ship and a SK island 'myseriously' getting hit by artillery some time ago.

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Orac
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How well fed is the North Korean army?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Orac wrote:
How well fed is the North Korean army?


ask the health care organizations and the US who send care packages over the ocean for those in NK who need it, or rather ask NK's farmers, they'll tell you they've never seen any care goods, only in the hands of soldiers, or pyonyang citizens or on the market sold to those who have money, which in this case, you guessed it right, soldiers.

Scorched Earth wrote:
At that point, I would personally have no problem getting deployed to NK and killing some motherfuckers, and that's probably because the idiots killed my buddies in the first place.


it would be more than easy in the poorer parts of NK to get people switch sides, most of them, rather all of them want to flee anyway and are too young, too old, or just afraid to cross the borders to china because the other way around they'd land in a prison camp which is equal there to our once so famous concentration camps.

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Orac
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How modern are North Korea's airforce?

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Zero18
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Their air force are made of stone and stick. #Tongue

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Scorched Earth
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blubb wrote:
it would be more than easy in the poorer parts of NK to get people switch sides, most of them, rather all of them want to flee anyway and are too young, too old, or just afraid to cross the borders to china because the other way around they'd land in a prison camp which is equal there to our once so famous concentration camps.


It's a shame, really. Aren't they welcomed into SK though if they manage to get across the border?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Scorched Earth wrote:
blubb wrote:
it would be more than easy in the poorer parts of NK to get people switch sides, most of them, rather all of them want to flee anyway and are too young, too old, or just afraid to cross the borders to china because the other way around they'd land in a prison camp which is equal there to our once so famous concentration camps.


It's a shame, really. Aren't they welcomed into SK though if they manage to get across the border?


complicated i imagine, but yeah, there are apparently a lot refugees from the NK.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh look. Another prick waving dickfight. Hooray.

Anyhow, anyone supporting a war with North Korea is retarded. This is not a viable threat. They can't launch it at us. And I quote Lewis Black here, what the fuck are they gonna do, get 500 Koreans to throw the shit at us?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

FurryQueen wrote:
Oh look. Another prick waving dickfight. Hooray.

Anyhow, anyone supporting a war with North Korea is retarded. This is not a viable threat. They can't launch it at us. And I quote Lewis Black here, what the fuck are they gonna do, get 500 Koreans to throw the shit at us?






tough i agree with the point about supporting a war that it's "retarded", on the other hand, what should the NK do in your opinion?
there's a tyrannical fat boy in charge of a military oriented country that lies in shambles and starvation and little to no economy and leave alone health care with people either hating foreign lands or simply too tired or too scared to rebel. what would happen if the land is countinued to be neglected as it is?

a turn of events like in egypt or lybia is impossible, and maybe even worse than syria.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kills all North Koreans.



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blubb wrote:
tough i agree with the point about supporting a war that it's "retarded", on the other hand, what should the NK do in your opinion?
there's a tyrannical fat boy in charge of a military oriented country that lies in shambles and starvation and little to no economy and leave alone health care with people either hating foreign lands or simply too tired or too scared to rebel. what would happen if the land is countinued to be neglected as it is?

a turn of events like in egypt or lybia is impossible, and maybe even worse than syria.

I don't know. I wish I had an eloquent answer to the plight of the people in North Korea but the simple fact of the matter is that I plain don't know. The guy in charge is ztyping insane and so is everyone else who would succeed him if he dies. If there was some easy solution, it would have been done already but unfortunately, there's no real solution to this. Some might say bomb them back to the stone age, but I don't see that actually solving anything.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not to mention they are still in the stone age. People saying this wouldn't turn into another Vietnam, well it probably would in some way. I imagine that despite having a large military it could easily be smashed, but not easily quelled. The only way they would be able to fight is by using guerilla tactics once their limited food supply is destroyed. Likely also the military wouldn't surrender with such indoctrination either. Even the people, despite being desperate, might be so turned against the south/US that there would be discontent for generations.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The solution is: Bomb their military-industrial installations to shit, then either a) let the civilian North Koreans figure it out, or b) hand NK over to South Korea, let them help govern and rebuild, then reunite Korea.

Peace is all good and fine, but let's be serious: North Korea, with its current form of administration, will never ever agree to peace. They can't. They need the perpetual threat of war to keep their people in line, and the fairy tale of western oppression to justify the lack of basic commodities to them.

North Korea cannot provide for its people on its own. The only chances they'd have are large-scale foreign help, or large-scale foreign trade and exchange.
The former they only get on conditions like strengthening of human rights, dismantling of nuclear installations, commitment to peace, etc.
The latter will inevitably lead to wide-spread contact of the general public with "western" ideas like freedom of speech or democracy.
Either way, the "leaders"' position would be severely weakened, something very few dictators and oligarchs are willing to accept.
More so, even if Kim Jong-un were willing to go down that road, he'd likely have an unfortunate "accident", arranged by someone less willing to give up his comfortable position in power.

With its current form of administration, it is unrealistic to expect North Korea to ever become peaceful and cooperative.

Therefore, the only way to protect the rest of the world is wiping out the North Korean administration and all tools in NK that would allow its reestablishment.

Once it's all just civilians with no food and no protection, they'll happily make peace and listen to anyone who's willing to give them some bread.

Then it's just a matter of propag-- err education.

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