TS NOD Artillery firing logic?

PillBox20 · Last edited by PillBox20 on Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:54 pm; edited 2 times in total

Hello, I have a question about the weapon of the TS NOD Artillery. When it deploys it fires a projectile at very high altitude and then hits the ground (kind of a nukelear missile attack but it is not a super weapon Mr. Green

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So:

What I have done:

1.Artmd.ini

[HWTZ] ; Howitzer
Voxel=yes
Remapable=yes
Cameo=HWTZICON
AltCameo=HWTZICONE
PrimaryFireFLH=250,0,90
PBarrelLength=224

I saw this on the artillery codes.

2.Rulesmd.ini

; Howitzer gun
[HowitzerGun]
Damage=90;75
ROF=100
Range=18;12
MinimumRange=2
Projectile=Ballistic2
Speed=100
Warhead=HowitzerWH
Report=ApocalypseAttackGround
Anim=GUNFIRE
Bright=yes

; arcing ballistic projectile 2
[Ballistic2]
High=yes
VeryHigh=yes
Image=120MM
Arcing=true
Bouncy=yes
ROT=100
Elasticity=o.o
SubjectToCliffs=no
SubjectToElevation=yes
SubjectToWalls=no

I have done that and now the howitzer does not fire, help please! Thank you!

P.S. Something off this topic - What does "Signature" means in the profile?

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Ok, here is the warhead:

;Howitzer
[HowitzerWH]
CellSpread=1;.5
PercentAtMax=2;.5
Wall=yes
Wood=yes
Verses=100%,90%,80%,60%,40%,40%,50%,40%,25%,80%,100%
Conventional=yes
InfDeath=3
AnimList=VTEXPLOD;S_CLSN16,S_CLSN22,S_CLSN30,S_CLSN42,S_CLSN58
ProneDamage=50%
Damage.Deployed=50%

P.S. What color is better, MigEater?

Mig Eater · Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject:

Is HowitzerWH also coded & listed correctly?

BTW don't use yellow text, it unreadable on the standard skin :/

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PillBox20 wrote:

; arcing ballistic projectile 2
[Ballistic2]
High=yes
VeryHigh=yes
Image=120MM
Arcing=true
Bouncy=yes
ROT=100
Elasticity=o.o
SubjectToCliffs=no
SubjectToElevation=yes
SubjectToWalls=no

Is that zero.zero or character.character? It's supposed to be the former (aka 0.0) as it won't accept characters.

PillBox20 wrote:

P.S. Something off this topic - What does "Signature" means in the profile?

A small text or image that appears with each post you make. Mine is the image below my post in example. Limits are 250 chars of text or an image of 600x200 pixels (afaik).

PillBox20 wrote:

P.S. What color is better

Default colour is good Wink

PillBox20 · Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject:

Aaa it was o.o, (not number) Sad

. Fixed that and still doesn't fire. I tryed something by removing "Arcing=true". It was like the GGI's Missile Launcher (goes up and hits the target but wave like style (facepalm) ). Then I tryed this:

; arcing ballistic projectile 2
[Ballistic2]
High=yes
VeryHigh=yes
Image=120MM
;Arcing=true
Bouncy=yes
ROT=15
;ROT=-1
CourseLockDuration=90
;Cluster=3
Elasticity=0.0
SubjectToCliffs=no
SubjectToElevation=yes
SubjectToWalls=no

It was like bumerang, I thoght that it will go up and after 90 frames will go down Laughing

but it didn't. I will try something else after this post.

B.T.W. Thanks for the quick replyes. I was thinking that I'll wait for some time (day or two). So .... you got it. Laughing

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Aaaa, the artillery had a turret, I gues this is my last option. I'll make a turret and test it....

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Set ROT=0
With ROT bigger than 0 you tell the game to use homing missile logic and not the arcing cannon flight logic.

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PillBox20 · Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:31 pm Post subject:

Ok, I tryed some things:

1. Whith of without "High=yes" or "VeryHigh=yes" the shell is still arcing like the grizzly tank's 105mm gun.

2. Whithout "Arcing=yes" the shell it just hits the ground before it reaches its target.

3. ROT's defaul is zero, bigger than zero or zero it didn't go high enough.

Forgot to mention that this is Yuri's Revenge with Ares 0.4 (saying in case it changes anything).

Conclusion:

I think that the game does not respect the "High=yes" and "VeryHigh=yes" tags.

I saw at the end of Mental Omega Mod Hero Spotlight #4 that an artillery had simillar attack like the NOD Artillery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOFnqpfrA_g
I don't think that they will give me their code, but a tip.

Anyway, I will add the NOD Artillery just to see if it needs a turret or no.

Mig Eater · Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject:

IIRC you also need to edit the units FireAngle.

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PillBox20 · Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:54 pm Post subject:

Yes I saw that in the NOD Artillery code, I will add it and check everything before posting my result again. Wich means after 2 days because I don't live, sleep, eat with the computer. I have other live as well Very Happy

. Again thanks to all for replying so rapidly. Good night to all!

P.S. Why am I set to "Civilian"?

Parasite03 · Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:39 am Post subject:

Maaannnnn.... Just put

Code:

Lobber=yes

on your weapon and it will make the projectile make a big arch.

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PillBox20 wrote:

I think that the game does not respect the "High=yes" and "VeryHigh=yes" tags.

It does respect them.
Read the comments sections in the inis to understand what most of the keys do.

rules.ini wrote:

; ******* Projectile Statistics *******
; High = Can it fly over walls (def=no)?
; VeryHigh = Does it fly at a very high cruise altitude (def=no)?

VeryHigh is only working on homing projectiles and makes the missile fly in a higher altitude than usual.

rules.ini wrote:

; ******* Weapon Statistics *******
; Lobber = does the projectile fly to target in a high arc (def=no)?

PillBox20 wrote:

Why am I set to "Civilian"?

Depends on the amount of posts you've made in this forum.

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Gangster · Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:51 pm Post subject:

just a note, VeryHigh= is valid in RA2\YR but causing "circling-missle" bug at long distance

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Allied General · Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:14 pm Post subject:

Next time download a copy of ts rules.ini so you can understand how the weapon logic in that game works.

RA2 is basically the same engine.

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PillBox20 · Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:16 pm Post subject:

Parasite03 wrote:

Maaannnnn.... Just put

Code:

Lobber=yes

on your weapon and it will make the projectile make a big arch.

Maaannnnn I have to say that I forgot about this tag. I used it on my paratrooper's grenade luancher and forgot about it Laughing

. For my Howitzer it fits perfectly, but still I will try to make the NOD's Mobile Artillery gun (for nostalgia purpose). If it works then I will use it for my other artillery unit for the Bulgaria Country. Very Happy

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For the other posts, I apologise. I was too fast to judge that the game is "stupid" and didn't readed more about the tags. I'll work harder and read more and think more. Smile

I will post when I am done with the ARTY. Will put a picture too. (I like to watch other ingame pictures, I gues others like too.)

P.S. OK?

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So it looks like the projectile flyes quite high but not like in TS, well maybe it is because everything in Red Alert 2 is bigger Laughing

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Anyway here are some photos:

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The Allies don't stand a chance! :D

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NOD Artillery comparison. In TS it tilts it's turret but in RA2 it doesn't.

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PillBox20 · Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject:

Just one question - how to add remap to voxels?

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Astral · Disk Thrower **Joined**: 07 Dec 2012 **Location**: nowhere

U can add remap to new unit just by adding Remapable=yes in the unit's image entry in ArtMD.ini

Smth like this:
[ROCK] ; Rocketeer
Cameo=JJETICON
AltCameo=JJETUICO
Sequence=RocketeerSequence
Crawls=no
Remapable=yes
FireUp=2
PrimaryFireFLH=100,0,120

Krow · Commander **Joined**: 30 Jan 2010 **Location**: Malaysia

Remapable=yes/no does nothing.

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Mig Eater · Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:20 pm Post subject:

You have to edit the voxel to add more remap.

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PillBox20 · Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:31 pm Post subject:

Mig Eater wrote:

You have to edit the voxel to add more remap.

Can I edit your Harriers? I mean do you allow me?

Mig Eater · Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:32 pm Post subject:

I don't mind.

The remap colours are the row of reds on the left side BTW.

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PillBox20 · Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:25 am Post subject:

Thank you Mig Eater, for the first time in my life I managed to remap a voxel. I was putting other colors the last time I tryed. Sad

So is it the same for SHPs? Put red and it will remap?

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:15 am Post subject:

Mhm.

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As long as the reds you are using are the ones which are used as team color in the palette then yes.

PillBox20 · Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject:

Thanks guys !
(guys and girls, don't know who is who Very Happy

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WoRmINaToR · Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:05 am Post subject:

BTW, using those howitzers from my mod is fine, but make sure to give credit to the proper person-- that voxel wasn't made by me. I believe credit goes to WeeRaby2K for that one.

(I must say I'm surprised to find out that anyone anywhere actually downloaded and checked that mod out. If that got anyone's interest, I should release some of the stuff I've been working on for the last 5 or so years... vastly better quality work.)

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PillBox20 · Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:00 am Post subject:

WoRmINaToR wrote:

BTW, using those howitzers from my mod is fine, but make sure to give credit to the proper person-- that voxel wasn't made by me. I believe credit goes to WeeRaby2K for that one.

(I must say I'm surprised to find out that anyone anywhere actually downloaded and checked that mod out. If that got anyone's interest, I should release some of the stuff I've been working on for the last 5 or so years... vastly better quality work.)

Five years!? Have gave up on your mod? I mean, I downloaded your mod just to test it and found some interesting stuf there. C'mon why would you abandon your mod? I didn't played alot because I think it required NPatch and I use Ares, that is why I didn't played a lot. Very Happy

But it is not bad mod.

P.S. I will credit everyone's work in my mod once it is finished. I thought that it was your Howitzer.... Don't worry I apritiate the hard work of every single drawer, moder, animator or else.