Some quesions

Parasite03 · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: Some quesions

Hi guys. I've got some quetins for you:
1. How bigger RA2 buildings are bigger than TS buuldings? e.g. TS buildings are smaller by 15%
2. Is there any good ore silo texture for RA2?
3. Names of csf' strings, which are shown when the game is loading
4. A tag which makes a building sellable!

Also, the game gives me an IE on exiting

-----EXCEPTION.TXT-----
Internal Error encountered!
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Ares version: 13.327.451
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Exception code: C0000005 at 0069E503
Registers:
EIP: 0069E503 ESP: 0018F098 EBP: 0A3C9A2C
EAX: 00000131 EBX: 00000000 ECX: FFFFFFFF
EDX: 00000BD9 ESI: FFFFFFFF EDI: FFFFFFFF

Stack dump:
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Agent Z · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject:

About the sellable, "unsallable" must be set to no (default) and the building needs an buildup animation. no buildup = no sell.

Parasite03 · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:20 pm Post subject:

oh. that's why I cant sell my ore silo and the command center. they don't have buildups

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject:

you can fake it by labeling a copy of one of the files as buildup, that worked for me. not sure if the original blitzkreig for RA2 had build ups

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Parasite03 · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:23 pm Post subject:

and what about other 3 questions? i dont ask you about IE because i doubt anyone who is not Graion, Axel or Dcoder can tell me what it is. the main question is what does EI 0069E503 mean?

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AlexB · Commander **Joined**: 31 May 2010 **Location**: Germany

It happens because an invalid SHP file is being unloaded. I don't know which one it is, or why that happens, sorry.

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:32 am Post subject:

Do you think the ini files in this post I made would help him??

http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36532

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Agent Z · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Some quesions

Parasite03 wrote:

3. Names of csf' strings, which are shown when the game is loading

Pretty obviously, those that are under "LOADBRIEF" section of the strings for the country info in skirmish loading,
"LOADBRIEFSHORT" for the short texts at bottom of the selection screen when you move cursor over a country describing the spesial unit of country and
"LOADMSG" for campaign mission titles in loading screens.

Parasite03 · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject:

I mean the text that is shown in the very beginning when the game is just run, after WW and EA logos and with copyright thing.

About the ini thing: on of them is blocked by antivirus, the other one I dont know what to do with it.

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:45 pm Post subject:

never had a virus error pop up on either......which don't you know how to use?

http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=200443&sid=12b671b94167c11e3a6cbe948c652649

http://ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=416023&sid=8bc0359a315fc7055cdd7fe519c91953

Parasite03 · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:48 pm Post subject:

i dont know what it's for. it seems like its an ini editor

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:58 pm Post subject:

It will check the ini file and show an errors that it detects..... missing warheads, buildings, etc

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Parasite03 · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:08 pm Post subject:

Also, any good ore silo textures? Tired of the unresized tibsun silo with recolored tiberium into ore.

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject:

I don't think silos work in RA2.... or did ARES take care of this?

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject:

eyup, 0.5 says hi.

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Parasite03 · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:56 pm Post subject:

I dont think the question was "Do silos work in RA2".......I thought it was Do you know any good silo textures that fit RA2? And also, what strings are responsible for

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I mean the text that is shown in the very beginning when the game is just run, after WW and EA logos and with copyright thing.

?

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject:

Ok, never really worked with TS so where can I find info on silios. went to the MODENC and typed silos and got nothing useful.

I would like to learn a bit more on them. I know they hold cash, but what happens when they are full? need some reading info please....

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:04 pm Post subject:

I know what the question was.... I was asking about silos being used...... as for textures if you are making a model its up to you..... do as you see fit.

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Parasite03 · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:18 pm Post subject:

Silos work as follows:
When all the containers(refineries, silos, etc) are full, the ore goes nowhere(or may be converts into actual money, I saw no explanations on that) and EVA_SilosNeeded is played.

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AlexB · Commander **Joined**: 31 May 2010 **Location**: Germany

If the silos are full, the excessive tiberium is lost. What would be the point to have silos otherwise?

Silos limit the amounts of money a player can have. This adds some strategic opportunities like destroying the enemy's silos to stop his production.

The tag you might have more luck with on ModEnc is Storage.

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:59 pm Post subject:

I kinda figured that....well, its been sometime since I played TS, what happens to miners? do they become inactive? in any case ill look into the storage deal

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AlexB · Commander **Joined**: 31 May 2010 **Location**: Germany

Miners just go on.

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Parasite03 · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject:

I think you add a tag to [General] to stop them from doing that.

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AlexB · Commander **Joined**: 31 May 2010 **Location**: Germany

Hmm. Could indeed be worth thinking about it, but for a perfect solution the old dump rate mechanism would have to be restored. Then harvesters would only dump so much the silos could hold.

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deathreaperz · Commander **Joined**: 20 May 2013 **Location**: Indonesia

I have a Good Question, guys! How AI can build a building near a building that added with "BaseNormal=no" tag?

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:13 am Post subject:

Stamped Artifical Idiot.

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:53 am Post subject:

expansion vehicle that deploys?

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mevitar · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 31 Dec 2010

The AI doesn't check for BaseNormal=no at all, so don't be surprised if it sometimes starts placing structures where it shouldn't (like Graion wrote, Artificial Idiot #Tongue

). It doesn't need any base expansion vehicles for that, and can even basewalk with base defenses.

Agent Z · Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:16 pm Post subject:

Also, often getting an much higher adjacent value.
I tested once by making lots of wall around the enemy conyard, and they were building about 8-9 cells away from conyard!

Graion Dilach · Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:30 pm Post subject:

http://modenc.renegadeprojects.com/AIBaseSpacing

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:13 pm Post subject:

mevitar wrote:

The AI doesn't check for BaseNormal=no at all, so don't be surprised if it sometimes starts placing structures where it shouldn't (like Graion wrote, Artificial Idiot #Tongue

). It doesn't need any base expansion vehicles for that, and can even basewalk with base defenses.

I never come across an AI to do that.........interesting

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