Air Units & FogOfWar; AI & Medics

hlidskialf

Hi there,

I have two questions:

1. Is it possible that air units have a "fixed" sight-range while flying, like ground units?
The problem is, when you play with fogofwar enabled (and using very short grow-delays, for example <=1 s) your own air units (especially jumpjets) will be covered by the fog when they are not moving, which is annyoing!

2. How can I tell AI to use medics properly? When I assign them the standard "basedefense"-script, they don't heal friendly infantry units. I've tried "OnlyTargetEnemyHouse=no" but it doesn't work ...

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

1. Since Fog of War causes the game to crash constantly after at least 5min, i doubt anyone has investigated that yet. There are several issues regarding aircraft and other flying objects which you can't fix and i assume the sight is one of these. (e.g. flying jumpjets also don't reveal shroud for allied players while they reveal fine when walking on ground)

2. Try giving them their own team, so there is no attack unit in their team. You could also try giving them a guard area command at the end of their script.

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hlidskialf · Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:42 am Post subject:

1. Yeah I know the IE-sensitivity when you play with fog of war, but I discovered something interesting: I run TibSun in virtualPC 2007 with WIN98 installed and play everytime with fog of war enabled --> I experienced no internal errors anymore, playing with 7 AI's and more than 2 hours, hundreds of games. I could finish every single game.
I don't test it for a "physical" WIN98 machine so far.

2. I already use them as a stand alone team and asigned them the "base defense"-script (0=11,10) which is the "area guard"-command as far as I know?! Maybe the "infantry attack"-script works for them with onlytargethouseenemy=no ... Is it possible to tell the team to attack special infantrytypes, like you can tell them to attack a specific building (131076 for tibref for example)?

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Since area-guard is bound to weapon range and the medic has a very short one, i doubt you can get very far with AI scripts.
I think an easier and better solution would be to create a clone of the medic which only the AI can build.
[MEDICAI]
Image=MEDIC
Prerequisite=CABHUT ;AI ignores prerequisites and thus can still build this
GuardRange=20 ;set here the default guard range for the AI medic (this is this way higher than the weapon range)
;rest of the code is just a copy of the normal medic

Interesting find about win98. Do you tried to play in win98 compat mode in winXP or 7 as well?
I wonder what win98 renders different than winXP/7/8

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hlidskialf · Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:10 am Post subject:

I will give the ai-specific medic a try!

I can't really remember, but I guess I tried the compatibility modes.
I believe it has something to do with the standard hardware virtualPC simulates for the OS. While I can't start TibSun with "virtualmachineadditions" installed (which updates the hardware), it runs catlike without the additions.
Since TibSun was released in 1999, and I was playing it with physical WIN98 back then, I can remember having IE's related to fog of war.
I have done a test video on youtube playing vs. 7 AI's and with fog of war called "C&C Tiberan Sun Skirmish", so you can convince yourself if you like; the channel is "Guy Incognito".

Edit: While TibSun runs with virtualPC and WIN98, C&C95 and RedAlert1 don't! Very Happy

I'm not really sure, but I thought you can install both games but you definitely can't play them ...

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Is that the lowest game speed setting you were playing with? If not, the lag would be horrible.

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hlidskialf · Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:30 am Post subject:

No I think it's normal or slow speed

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

ok. If you would have said you set fast or fastest, then the lag would be really unplayable high.

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hlidskialf · Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:47 am Post subject:

But you can see, no IE! =)

While I short watched the video, I realized how annoying the floater attack sound is. Why can you hear the sound over the whole map, while other weapon sounds are just local?

I have another question: When I build helipads, they are set as "primary" by default (the same thing happens sometimes with other factories). How can I disable that?

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

There's a global flag that overwrites the Medic's range due to the very problem posed by the weapon's short range. The new range value is used at least when the unit is put on Guard Area mode.

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hlidskialf · Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:01 pm Post subject:

I think you mean the "HealScanRadius"-flag under [General].