Toxic Soldiers / Riot Police

Syco · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:06 am Post subject: Toxic Soldiers / Riot Police

Jog your memory...
Riot Police : GDI Firestorm campaign, forget what level...riot control, take out the leaders, use mobile EM pusle.
Toxin Soldiers : Second NOD Firestorm level. "Infect GDI with cabal's experiment".

Anyway, the question: They don't seem to show up in any ini files...is there some secret place, or are they hardcoded? If they are hardcoded, can they be recreated? Do we know their unit ID?
-Syco

The DvD · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:43 pm Post subject:

They're edited SLAV units..

the ini codes from rules.ini can be changed in a map.

even in skirmish maps.

Kravvitz · Commander **Joined**: 25 Mar 2003 **Location**: USA

bingo!

so extract the map files for the missions and open them in a text editor and look for the ones that have [SLAV] in them. You may want to put all of the map files in their own directory and then use Windows Find to check which ones have "[SLAV]" in them.

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Syco · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:02 am Post subject:

Okay, so this means a new tree...can someone help me lay it out (so I can understand?)
TS reads Rules.ini within the original .mix (forget what it is at the moment),
Then reads rules.ini files in expand##.mix and overwrites same values*
Then reads firestorm.ini files in default mix, then in expand##.mix, doing the same thing as above
Then reads rules.ini / firestorm.ini in the main directory, same way as above
Then reads unit values within a map?**

* for those who don't follow, under [Unit] value is only for whatever exists. such as changing the Name=Slavick under [Slav] only changes his name...we can explain more a different time
** I can't get finalsun to work under 16 bit resolution on Win2k, I didn't try running 256 colors...would that fix it? I don't think so, but...yeah

-Syco

Kravvitz · Commander **Joined**: 25 Mar 2003 **Location**: USA

from what I understand, you have the correct order in which rules class files are read.

This won't be the first time someone hasn't been able to get a program to work in Win2k.

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Syco · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:08 am Post subject:

Heh. Upgrading to XP and +20 gig when I get the cash. Not that I don't trust Kravvitz, but if other people would join in, more agreement would make me more sure. And of coarse, disagreement would be good too.
-Syco

pft1086 · Light Infantry **Joined**: 04 Dec 2003

I'm not sure what your problem is. I'm running Win2k in 32 bit color and Final Sun works fine for me.

Kravvitz · Commander **Joined**: 25 Mar 2003 **Location**: USA

you don't need finalsun for this, just open up the map files in notepad.

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:54 pm Post subject:

note that the toxin soldiers and riot troops weapons are trigger based which is likely why they are not in the rules.ini

and will not work if u try and add them as new units

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Syco · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject:

Hm. So if I had something like it, the Tiberian Sun map generator wouldn't be able to generate maps for the mod, and I'd have to get a good mapper to make me several dozen maps.
There's something I won't be messing with for awhile.

Kravvitz · Commander **Joined**: 25 Mar 2003 **Location**: USA

Thank you, Smiff, I forgot about that.

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The DvD · Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject:

SMIFFGIG wrote:

note that the toxin soldiers and riot troops weapons are trigger based which is likely why they are not in the rules.ini

and will not work if u try and add them as new units

The weapons are trigger based? Confused

They just edited weapon and unit stats of SLAV in these maps...

The DvD · Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:06 pm Post subject:

Oh! now i get it... yes, when shot the civilians will move to certain locations and will get crazy, all controlled by triggers..

Clazzy · Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject:

They also switched side. That was done through triggers as well.

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