EVA Questions

deathreaperz · Commander **Joined**: 20 May 2013 **Location**: Indonesia

Why Red Alert 2 and/or Yuri's Revenge had a LOT of unused EVAs??? I'm sure most of them were describing units and Miner Offline(?), Defenses Offline (?), and etc

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Mig Eater · Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:04 am Post subject:

Most are used once in specific parts of the campaign missions and nowhere else.

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deathreaperz · Commander **Joined**: 20 May 2013 **Location**: Indonesia

so i also found an Upgrade EVA, was RA2 used to have an upgrade stuff???

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Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

Upgrade System was planned similar to how it would have worked in Dune 2000 and even the Devs mention how Yuri was also originally supposed to tech up using it.

EVA is also unused like the Miners when they were robotic mining units.

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deathreaperz · Commander **Joined**: 20 May 2013 **Location**: Indonesia

So the miners was used to be a robotic vehicle that was powered by refineries? And how we can implement upgrade system on YR?

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Mig Eater · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:57 am Post subject:

You can use Ares to create a upgradeable tech system.

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Does Ares fix the issue with upgrades used as prerequisite?

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Mig Eater · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:06 pm Post subject:

Yes

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

*thinking aloud*
Wouldn't the object attached to object feature be a much better upgrade system!?

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Mig Eater · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:30 pm Post subject:

The objects would already be attached to each other when built & not attached/upgraded later.

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deathreaperz · Commander **Joined**: 20 May 2013 **Location**: Indonesia

was there an EVA tag for something like:

EVA.Building= ;if there was, we can use EVA_Upgrading
EVA.Impatient(for Buildings)= ;if there was, we can use EVA_UpgradeInProgress
EVA.ConstructionComplete= ;if there was, we can use EVA_UpgradeComplete

and for the upgrade superweapon, was there a tag like this:

UsageLimit= ;def -1 (infinite) ;if it was set to 1, then you can only use the superweapon once and when you already use it, a building that have this SW wont provide the SW again

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Mig Eater · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:05 pm Post subject:

You could use CreateSound=EVA_UpgradeComplete on the the building/upgrade, you'd need to convert it to a unit voice tho. You'd hear it once it's placed on the map tho & not when it's finished building in the sidebar.

If you are using an attach effect unit upgrade SW you could use EVA.Ready=EVA_UpgradeComplete & EVA.Impatient=EVA_UpgradeInProgress tho.

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Mig Eater wrote:

The objects would already be attached to each other when built & not attached/upgraded later.

When they (re)spawn/generate like spawned units (aircraft carrier), buildings could be made to auto-upgrade after a certain duration.
e.g.
tech center only give new tech, 30min after they have been placed.
-time dependent tech could add a nice new tactical component to a mod

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Orac · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:24 pm Post subject:

Is that even remotely possible? I thought the handling for units and buildings was wildly different?