How to create a camera weapon?

Millennium · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:50 pm Post subject: How to create a camera weapon?

The Spy Plane generates a sight range when it fires its weapon. How is that effect tacked onto the unit or its weapon and is it possible to recreate this for other units? RA's old Camera tag on weapons does not seem to work anymore. Is it a property of the SpyPlaneOverfly mission?

Nolt · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:03 pm Post subject:

I think it is tracked on the Super Weapon, I just changed the spy plane for a mig on the special, and the only way to make it NOT do what the spyplane does is by giving a mission to attack. By that I mean that the migs do reveal terrain and make the camera sound when not "attacking".

G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

RevealOnFire?

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Millennium · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:05 am Post subject:

No, RevealOnFire determines whether the shroud around a firing unit is removed for the target. Like, when a sniper fires on your units but is hidden under shroud, will you be able to see the sniper because the shroud gets lifted around him?

I think it's safe to say that revealing shroud around your own units when firing is part of Mission=SpyplaneOverfly, like Nolt said.

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Nolt · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:20 am Post subject:

Well, if you dont get the answer you need, then the easiest way to go is to make something like a vehicle that deploys into a camp that has a psychic reveal SW clone.

From what ive readed on the ares documentation, you can give it custom sound and a range limiter, like an EMP pulse from ts.

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Millennium · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:35 pm Post subject:

Eh, I was trying to re-create the Limpet Drone from FS... ie parasite logic which reveals shroud around the unit it infects. But that has so many implications, I don't think it's possible.

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Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

If by a simple camera weapon (I'd probably make this one as a flare gun) I'd make it a gun that spawns a dummy infantry on the warhead that kills itself with its own weapon. (You'll have to deal with the Unit Lost EVA though) The Infantry provides the sight and whatever sensor/cloak detection needs you want I guess.

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:34 pm Post subject:

Um, Ares to the rescue!

http://ares-developers.github.io/Ares-docs/new/unitlost.html

(If it's hit under maintenance - DontScore=yes/Insignificant=yes and EVA shuts up)

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Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

oh yeah forgot about insignificant as well since you'll be using this for a dummy unit anyway as well.

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Krow · Commander **Joined**: 30 Jan 2010 **Location**: Malaysia

IIRC, somebody told me Spawned=yes shuts up EVA too.

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:57 pm Post subject:

Yes, that's listed there as well. Albeit Spawned also has side-effects for that purpose, so...

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ApolloTD · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003

Recreating limpet drone? That thing was like most useless thing ever!

Worse yet, the actual concept for it actually outlined a combat role for it but oh well, it was 'simplified'

Recreating it with parasite logic isn't practical as the unit will spark and rock itself hardly concealing its presence.

Millennium · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:17 pm Post subject:

Yes well, something of a TD/Limpet cross-over infact. I was going to add SpeedMult and reveal effects to the TD warhead, but still keep the damage. Speed multiplier is functional already.

Otherwise, Noodles' approach would be very innovative and effective, but the this application is pretty specific and wouldn't work in any way other than having Camera as a property of the parasite weapon I think.

Still thanks everyone for your ideas.

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G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

I was looking in art.ini and there's another possibility...

ShouldFogRemove ?

Attached to some invisible warhead anim?

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Millennium · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:18 pm Post subject:

Interesting approach, especially since AttachEffect.Animations have an Owner (invoker). I'm using AE anyways to simulate the SpeedMult of the FS limpet.
Is ShouldFogRemove bound to owner or does it happen for everyone?

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Mig Eater · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:47 pm Post subject:

ShouldFogRemove is a really obscure tag that is only used on the on tunnel entrance roof anim. I don't think it even does anything & if it does then I'd presume it removes fog & not shroud...

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Millennium · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:47 pm Post subject:

Tests underway!

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