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How to Build Jumpjet Vehicle from Airfield
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cxtian39
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:49 pm    Post subject:  How to Build Jumpjet Vehicle from Airfield Reply with quote

First you need a dummy aircraft that kills itself on born
Code:
[AircraftTypes]
+=MYDUMMYAIRCRAFT01

[MYDUMMYAIRCRAFT01]
...
TechLevel=3 ; buildable
Armor=die ; killed by the suicide AE
AttachEffect.Animation=KILLDUMMY ; a suicide AE
AttachEffect.Duration=-1
Sight=0
DesignatorRange=1 ; yes this is a designator
...


Then add this superweapon to your airfield
Code:
[GiveMeJumpjet]
Type=UnitDelivery
Deliver.Types=MYJUMPJET
SW.AITargeting=self
SW.AutoFire=yes
SW.FireIntoShroud=yes
IsPowered=false
RechargeTime=.01
SW.ShowCameo=no
SW.Deferment=0
SW.Designators=MYDUMMYAIRCRAFT01

[MYJUMPJET]
;Your helicopter, airship, disc, whatever

Reason behind: you build the dummy designator, causing the give-me-jumpjet-sw to fire only once then the designator dies right after born and the superweapon is on hold again. This trick supports setting primary exit.
If you want AI to recruit unit-delivered unit, set [Hunt]->Recruitable=yes  Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, isn't this for Ares?
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NimoStar
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the "hunt" part for exactly? I didn't get that.

I get it is an AI section but I don't get how it would make them build this
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not an AI section but rules section.

AI unit in hunt mode would have gone hunting before a new team is formed to recruit it. This may not be useful for AI as a build and use unit.

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cxtian39
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ai builds the dummy then recruit the actual unit
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why not unit deliver a 1x1 invisible building instead? that building could produce the jumpjet via the kennel logic.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

silverwind wrote:
why not unit deliver a 1x1 invisible building instead? that building could produce the jumpjet via the kennel logic.
Then the jumpjet still queues with vehicles, not what I mean to achieve.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks I might use this for D-day.
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silverwind
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cxtian39 wrote:
silverwind wrote:
why not unit deliver a 1x1 invisible building instead? that building could produce the jumpjet via the kennel logic.
Then the jumpjet still queues with vehicles, not what I mean to achieve.


Ah, that makes more sense. Now that I think about it, this is actually a brilliant idea!

By using a dummy unit as a beacon for a UnitDelivery SW, you get the chance to employ many of the added effects of a SW for unit production, like Animations, EVA Events, Messages, Radar Events, etc.

I am SO gonna use this.

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suffle19
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Dummy dude wont die

Rules:
[General]
PadAircraft=DUMMYVTOL

[ArmorTypes]
kill_switch=none

[AircraftTypes]
3001 = DUMMYVTOL

[Animations]
3069 = SUICIDEANIM

[Warheads]
3018 = KillSwitchWH

[KillSwitchWH]
Verses=0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%
Verses.kill_switch=1500%
AffectsAllies=yes
AffectsEnemies=no

[DUMMYVTOL]
UIName=NOSTR:dummy
Name=dummy
Prerequisite=HPADFAKE ; cloned hpad for quick tests
CanPassiveAquire=yes
CanRetaliate=no
Strength=20
Turret=yes
TechLevel=3
Armor=kill_switch
AttachEffect.Animation=SUICIDEANIM
AttachEffect.Duration=-1
Sight=0
DesignatorRange=1
Category=AirPower
CloakStop=yes
ProtectedDriver=yes
RadarInvisible=yes
Landable=yes
MoveToShroud=yes
Dock=HPADFAKE
PipScale=Ammo
Speed=28
PitchSpeed=1.1
PitchAngle=0
OmniFire=yes
Owner=Germany
RequiredHouses=Germany
Cost=1600
Points=25
ROT=6
Crewed=no
ConsideredAircraft=yes
AirportBound=yes
GuardRange=30
Explosion=SHODTNKEXPSML,SHODTNKEXPMED
MaxDebris=3
IsSelectableCombatant=no
Locomotor={4A582746-9839-11d1-B709-00A024DDAFD1}
MovementZone=Fly
ThreatPosed=20
Fighter=yes
AllowedToStartInMultiplayer=no
PreventAttackMove=no


Art.ini:
[SUICIDEANIM]
Image=INVISO
Damage=150
DamageRadius=100
LoopStart=0
LoopEnd=7
LoopCount=1
Warhead=KillSwitchWH

Last edited by suffle19 on Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:16 pm; edited 1 time in total

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missing Suicide=yes on weapon.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MRMIdAS wrote:
Missing Suicide=yes on weapon.

but there's no weapon, only warhead. Its uses AE

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[Animation]>Weapon= possibly?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MRMIdAS wrote:
[Animation]>Weapon= possibly?

I'll try

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MRMIdAS wrote:
[Animation]>Weapon= possibly?

No, Dummy unit wont die anyway, also it keeps spawn my requested jet

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very odd. not sure then.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,
Versus.kill_switch=1500%

You misspelled versus like Westwood
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you added SUICIDEANIM to the [Animations] list?
Otherwise it won't load

Do you tried some other anim than Image=INVISO (something visible) to check if your suicide anim is played at all?
INVISO has only 1 frame. Maybe try an SHP with a few more frames.

You can delete DamageRadius. The key doesn't work AFAIK and wouldn't be necessary in the first place.

Have you tried using warhead SUPER? Maybe your special kill_switch warhead isn't working.

Why do you uselessly over-complicated this by adding a custom armortype? simply use Armor=none for the unit and SUPER warhead to kill it.
In other words, simplify down your code and rule out additional factors.

Once it works, add additional stuff like custom armors. Though Armor=none and Organic warhead would surely also work and prevent the helipad from getting damaged. There's enough already in the game to work with.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advices, i'll try it out.
P.s Yes i tried diffrent images and yes i have SUICIDEANIM in the [Animation] section

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly you spelled your tag wrong and nothing else
http://ares-developers.github.io/Ares-docs/new/additionalarmortypesandverses.html
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cxtian39 wrote:


I don't undestand where's mistake in my armor or warhead.
P.s. I didnt try all tips that where described above. Currently dont have time for mod.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suffle19 wrote:
cxtian39 wrote:


I don't undestand where's mistake in my armor or warhead.
P.s. I didnt try all tips that where described above. Currently dont have time for mod.


WW made a wrong spell of "Versus", and Ares is using the right one, so you have to write Verses=... for the 11 vanilla armor types and Versus.(Ares custom armor name)=... for Ares custom armor types, that's it.
suffle19 wrote:

[KillSwitchWH]
Verses=0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%,0%
Verses.kill_switch=1500%

this custom versus wont work.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have changed warheads as Lin Kuei Ominae said(None,Super) and it works. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now is there way to build it when Airfield is full? Problem is - i have helipad so it has 1 dock place and when it has aircraft on it i cant build other aircraft types.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pad aircraft are dumb. Get rid of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But how will our ArcraftTypes reload?
They don't exactly have infinite ammo, nor can they be made to reload unless they dock...
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suffle19
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cxtian39 wrote:
Pad aircraft are dumb. Get rid of them.

Can you explain why? Or its just your opinion?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL... I only get it Very Happy cxtian39 all of this time told me that i wrote VersEs but its need to be VersUs... omg im such inattentive and slowpoke. Sorry.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's me again I dont get this "hunt" part for AI.
Can some one give example?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

suffle19 wrote:
It's me again I dont get this "hunt" part for AI.
Can some one give example?
search [Hunt] in rulesmd
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

suffle19 wrote:
It's me again I dont get this "hunt" part for AI.
Can some one give example?


"Hunt" makes stuff go out and look for stuff to kill, usually the nearest targetable thing owned by a non-civvy thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And now what I need to spell in AI.ini to task force dummy designator or actual unit?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno... I added dummyunit to task force but its not appears, AI builds it but no unit spawns only designator. If i spelling actual units AI builds it from weapon factory.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your AI taskforce needs to be able to pull these new units from the battlefield, so make sure Autocreate=no is set on the teams that use your intended vehicle/aircraft/infantry/etc.
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