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suffle19
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Joined: 27 Jun 2019

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:54 pm    Post subject:  I need help with projectile
Subject description: Projectile created at cliff goes into the ground
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So problem is when unit fires at flat surface it works well but when unit goes to any cliff or gets higher than target by any way then its projectiles starts to fire into the ground... i know that its caused by CourseLockDuration in this situation but i need it for that weapon...
For some reason at cliffs projectile starts from falling and then rising(but cuz of course lock "rising" isn't happens)...

p.s.
I could lower acceleration but projectile will lose all idea

Code:

[ClusterMissileP]
;Arm=1 <- Tried with and without
Shadow=no
High=yes
AA=yes
AG=yes
Ranged=no
Proximity=no
Image=ClusterM
ROT=100
SubjectToCliffs=yes
SubjectToElevation=yes
SubjectToWalls=yes
Acceleration=10
Airburst=yes
AirburstWeapon=SClusterMissile
CourseLockDuration=10
Cluster=4
AroundTarget=no
Splits=yes
RetargetAccuracy=0.75
RetargetSelf=no

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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Location: Germany

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you give the projectile no option to rotate (due to CurseLockDuration) and don't want to change its behaviour, what do you expect the bullet to do?
There is no magic bullet flies through ground/cliffs logic.

Either change the bullet behaviour and allow it to avoid cliffs, or accept that it hits them.

According to modenc, the SubjectTo* keys work for non-homing projectiles only. So they are redundant on yours.
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Graion Dilach
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you tweak the FLH to give it more headroom on the fixed path?
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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

setting FireAngle may help, if the FLH is already set to the correct location.
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suffle19
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
setting FireAngle may help, if the FLH is already set to the correct location.


I know that i limited its rotation but im curious why when unit is on cliff its firing into ground if target is lower... FLH is absolutely correct and FireAngle doesnt help...

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4StarGeneral
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vehicles/Aircraft default to firing down due to some hardcoded dumbness for bombs (Kirov, Hornets, etc.), FireAngle truly does nothing in RA2 from what I remember testing.

Using another weapon that will Split immediately into the weapon you're trying to use might work, but even that may just split into the ground.
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Starkku
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4StarGeneral wrote:
Vehicles/Aircraft default to firing down due to some hardcoded dumbness for bombs (Kirov, Hornets, etc.)


I believe this difference is actually, at very least in part, explained by initial trajectory being set differently for projectiles with voxel images (such as Kirov's bombs) and those without, regardless of what kind of object is firing the weapon in question. That said, even with SHP projectiles which should be smarter about the initial firing angle you'll probably encounter some problems with cliffs, especially if CourseLockDuration, high Acceleration, low ROT or any combination thereof is involved.
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