AA weapon shoots on ground [Solved]

Overmind · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 05 May 2022

I found something quite strange and can't figure it out.

I am making an AA quad cannot and it can shoot ground, although it should not, since AG=no is set.

[AAQuadGun]
Damage=15
ROF=60
Range=12
Projectile=Invisible4
Speed=100
Warhead=GattWHB
Report=UFVAA
Anim=GUNFIRE

[Invisible4]
Inviso=yes
Image=none
AA=yes
AG=no

What could be wrong ?
If I force-fire it into ground it does not shoot, but if force-fire into a ground unit it will.

Medusa-bases rockets can also shoot ground, anything the warhead allows.

G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

I use both methods:

1. The AA warhead is only non-zero on the armor used by air vehicles, in my case I repurposed "light" for aircraft only

2. LandTargeting=1 on the unit/building itself

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Fourth Silmaril · Civilian **Joined**: 16 May 2020

In TS, AG=no on projectiles forbids the weapon to fire at ground units, but does not prohibit it from force-firing onto the ground. In RA2, the situation is reversed: AG=no forbids the weapon to fire at the ground, but it does not prohibit it from firing at ground units. You need to add LandTargeting=1 to a unit to prohibit that unit from firing its weapons at ground targets. I'm not sure whether LandTargeting=1 also forbids force-firing onto the ground, but to be safe, you might want to combine LandTargeting=1 (to prohibit firing onto ground units) on the unit, and AG=no on the projectile (to prohibit firing onto the ground).

Overmind · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 05 May 2022

Yes, I already use LandTargeting=1, but it may have some strange effects. Like my AA unit will not fire at paradropping troopers.

Repurposing "light" armor for aircraft is a nice idea, but it will take quite some redesigning and rebalancing of many units if I go that way.

I guess one of the specials used for rockets could also be used for air units.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying how AG= works.

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Virgil · Stealth Laser Trooper **Joined**: 22 Jul 2018

Paratroopers are ground units despite being in the air, so if you give your AA LandTargeting=1, it won't attack paras also.

G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

Because AA/AG/AN/ASW are dictacted by the unit's normal zone of existence, whether that's via MovementZone or explicitly like Naval=yes.

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Fourth Silmaril · Civilian **Joined**: 16 May 2020

There is a guide on ModEnc on how to fix the issue of not attacking paratroopers: https://modenc.renegadeprojects.com/Overcoming_Paratrooper_Targeting_Issues

According to this guide, what prevents targeting paradropping entities is AG=no, not LandTargeting=1.

I don't think the proposed solution is a good one, but as far as identifying the problem goes, you might want to refer to it.

Overmind · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 05 May 2022

I will investigate this option. Thanks.
-Update-
Looks like it worked.

I just cloned the primary AA weapon to secondary, changed the projectile from Inv4 to Inv3, cloned WH and made it vs inf only and I can shoot at paras can can't force-shoot my infantry so it's good.