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Communist East Germany as one of Germany's subfactions
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Tunnan2017
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:41 pm    Post subject:  Communist East Germany as one of Germany's subfactions Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

In this topic i will start with the Junkers-Baade EF137 as their main fighter jet. (But i think they'll going to have Mig-15,Mig-17,Mig-19 & Mig-21 in-game too.)



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I dont have any plans to add East Germany to D-day, their equipment would be to similar to the Soviet side to make it worthwhile.

The EF-137 was a late war German design that was still on the drawing board when the war ended. Several of the German engineers involved in its development later moved to the USSR & briefly continued work on the design for the Soviets but it was soon canceled. It doesn't really have anything to do with East Germany :/

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Then can you add it as a special crate-only unit?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The EF-137 would fit nicely as a crate unit, I have a long list of main units that I need to concentrate on making first tho.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you are going to make a voxel model for EF-137, Which paint scheme will you choose for it? 1.Nazi Luftwaffe paint 2.East Germany's Luftstreitkrafte paint 3.Soviet VVS paint?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It would be Luftwaffe as they were the original designers.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What about this one? Baade 160-178 jet trainer as their ground attack aircraft (Kinda looks a little bit like the Polish TS-11 Iskra with some differences.) It was designed in 1956 where East Germany is already a stable country,It is powered by the French Turbomeca Aspin/Marbore engine depends on the variants (Baade 160,167,170,175,178 are Aspin while 161,163,164,165,166,174,176 are Marbore.) Reminds me of how you modified the Communist China's Shenyang JJ-1 trainer from having single 23mm Autocannon to have hardpoints and carrying bombs, So you could do the same on Baade 160-178 too.



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes the Baade 160 would probably be the best option for a GDR ground attack aircraft. The Baade 150 would be the bomber, Baade 152 the transport & the Mig-15 the fighter (because everyone got the Mig #Tongue )

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's okay if you won't allow East Germany to have EF137 but here is the supply collecting truck for them, The IFA W50.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IFA G5 as their MCV.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The MCV has to be same across sub-factions & time frames, so they would have the normal Sd.Kfz 9 FAMO.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Then which truck you prefer to choose as a supply collector for East Germany, W50 or G5?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The W50 would probably fit better, as an analogy to the West German Unimog 404.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mil Mi-4 as their Transport Helicopter.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mister Mig, Do you know the orchestra music at the 12:47 part of this video? I heard it since my childhood but don't know its name, It still sounds like Auferstanden Aus Ruinen so it's still make sense to talk about it here, tell me its name if you know it, Thank you.

https://youtu.be/T8BKft0NNOs

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sorry I dont recognize the music.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sonder kfz-1 as their Scout/Anti-Infantry vehicle. (Note it has its machine gun removed in the picture below.) or you prefer the BRDM-1 for this role?



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes the Kfz-1 would work, several other sides already have the BRDM-1 so it's good to have some variety.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

T-54 as their main battle tank. (Just like any other playable Warsaw Pact Countries and China's Type 59 in D-Day.)



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

PT-76 as their secondary amphibious light tank.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've finally made my decision so the BTR-50 will be their APC. (Known in East Germany as SPW-50.) because being amphibious is better.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

About their navy, (Volksmarine) They'll use common barge as their amphibious landing craft, While they will have U-Boat Type XXIII as their attack submarine.



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Their surface combatant will be the Osa-Class missile boat. (Early variant with a box-type launcher).



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Do you think "Baade 153" (the plane in the picture below.) is a better transport plane for GDr than Baade 152?



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Baade 152 fits better IMO with it being based on a late war Junkers design, several prototypes were also built & tested. In contrast the Baade 153 only reached the mock up stage & it's development is also just on/over the 1960's cut off date too.

Discussing this is pointless tho as the game is limited to only 1 transport plane for all sub-factions, so the GDR would have to use the Me-P.08.01 like everyone else.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

West Germany in D-Day use the Me-P.08.01 too?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, both the Third Reich & West Germany use the Me-P.08.01 as their transport/paradrop plane.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ZSU-57-2 as their anti-aircraft tank.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Their artillery vehicle will be BM-21 Grad. (GDR's Volksarmee during 1950s & early 1960s don't have Self-propelled Howitzers at all.)



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The BM-21 Grad was introduced in the mid 1960's & is to modern for D-day.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So will they be still playable without artillery?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There are BM-14 from early 50's. There are info that East Germany used them too.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the information Saref, And for you Mister Mig, I didn't talk with you for a really long time, With that said, here is a picture i got from Wikipedia which shows East Germany as one of the users of BM-14 worldwide. (Though there are still no photographic evidence of BM-14 in East German service.)



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It turns out, GDR's Volksmarine during 1950s-1960s is actually well-equipped than previously thought, Therefore their landing craft is not an ordinary barge anymore and will going to be the Project 47 "Robbe" class landing craft.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:52 am    Post subject:  Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Their major surface warship will be Riga-class Frigate



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wiesel-Class Torpedo Boat as their Fast Attack Craft.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think GDR in D-Day should have "Kaplick Kerl" trainer jet as their ground attack aircraft instead of Baade 160 because Baade's design looks too similar to Polish TS-11 Iskra.



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Junkers-Baade EF-132 B-2 as their superweapon strategic bomber, where a large formation of them will fly from off-screen to carpet-bomb the selected area with conventional bombs (because GDR doesn't have any nuclear weapon programs since 1949.)



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IS-2 as their heavy tank.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think the PT-76 should be replaced by the East German-originated amphibious variant of T-34 (In-Game, It will be named "Schwimmpanzer T-34).



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