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Warning to all asset makers that don't want their own work
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kenosis
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Location: Moscow State University

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:38 am    Post subject:  Warning to all asset makers that don't want their own work
Subject description: to be used in a commercial project
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Greetings, ppm forum users.

 I, as site admininstrator of RA2diy (bbs.ra2diy.com) hereby inform all of you, that a certain commercial company, ramboplay.com (now https://ra2.com, a total imposter of EA official site) is assaulting the modding commuinity, ripping off our free-to-use assets that are aimed to be used for fellow modders in non-commercial projects, to use on their platform, which is also a modified cncnet client with commercial functions, as part of their service to the public. Some services will cost players of their real money.

 Those violations include but not limited to: Redistributing pirated versions of RA2/YR; using Phobos and Ares projects as part of their "support plugins" without mentioning any other information; Using Mental Omega's terran pack as "selectable expansion" for their map makers; Using modified Phobos triggers to achiceve costing real money to gain different game experience; Claims on their site "Official Red Alert site"; Using community free assets in their maps that has built-in purchases.

 As it is a commercial company animed to make money from running a commercially modified CNCNET, after consulting lawyer of intellectual property, we are adviced that using anything created by modders and provided for free on such platform, is considered commercial use, and the non-commercial free authorization that was provided by crediting is auto cancelled.

 As an answer, RA2DIY has announced a regulation article, summing up what we have learnt from the laywer. As all rules are made clear in RA2DIY, RamboPlay's "map makers" or as it may reflect their true nature clearly, "thieves", are registering PPM accounts, trying to rip off YOU.

 Of course, we do not reject or boycott making profits by selling assets to certain buyers, including commercial companies, but what they do is just blood sucking. Commercial use can be authorized if asset author agrees with the user, but I DO DOUBT if any of those rippers will actually contact anyone: one of Ramboplay's staff publicly told me and Crhis_Lv (kratos author) that Ramboplay will sooner or later start a conflict with RA2diy and the whole community, and when I ask him to answer as a staff, does it mean Ramboplay will start to massively rip our work on the forums and in the mods, the answer is "now that you turn against us, later you will do your best to provide assets for us".  
 I guess this already shows their position. The company later just say "he said for himself". No apologies, no explanations. That is, no further trust to them.

 The message is delivered, and you know what to do - at least write a line in asset releasing threads - you forbid anyone from Ramboplay to use your assets unless an agreement of commercial use is achieved.

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Mig Eater
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Location: Eindhoven

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well that sucks :/  

You should try & get in contact with someone at EA, or maybe even Tencent as they hold a license for RA2 in China. I dont think they will take to kindly to a company selling pirated copies with an official looking website.

Keep us updated on the situation.

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Kerbiter
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

We're already working on this. It's much more worse than just redistributing pirated copies.

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Graion Dilach
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Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Location: Iszkaszentgyorgy, Hungary

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TBH, all it lacks to be the absolute worst are sockpoppet accounts flooding all the relevant communities spreading the word as if this is any official or appropriate...

Good luck cleansing it from the interwebs.

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kenosis
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Joined: 19 Aug 2009
Location: Moscow State University

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

those people are mentioned in their “map extension” pack. I would ask them if they really agree that their assets to be used by a commercial company.



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TAK02
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Joined: 28 Jun 2015
Location: It was Damascus.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I was just informed I was mentioned here.

I swear I was not part of the Terrain Expansion team at all, nor did I tell anyone to say I was the one who made it - that credit goes fully to Blade and C-Gen too, I believe.

The only probable reason why I was mentioned here is because I uploaded the extracted Terrain Expansion files without its installer both here and on ModDB - I only did it because it didn't install on my end once before and got lucky thanks to E1Elite, and thought someone, somewhere may have the same problem and not get lucky.

Honestly, the only thing I "did" was fix a wrong value in one of the train bridge tiles and (inner?) pave shores for one of the theatres (can't recall which, probably Urban), but that is so miniscule it doesn't even bear a mention.

I apologize for any part I had in this mess - I swear I didn't mean to give anyone any grief over it, much less be given credit for something I had no hand in.

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kenosis
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I bet you being mentioned there is not a problem for anyone, what is a problem is their commercial use of it.

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