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All vanilla RA2 AI mods?
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NimoStar
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:17 am    Post subject:  All vanilla RA2 AI mods?
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Well, I used an advanced AI mod, but it makes my mod crash (even though I just use default unit tags for it mostly)

Tried to find the issue but hard since there is no crash log, the game just exits to desktop (only happens against lategame Soviet AI)

So, I was wondering, can we make a database of AI mods?

I have no great problem editing AI BTW, its just that its hard to fix a bug where you don't know what it is. And regular vanilla AI is atrocious...

This might be good as a resource repository for other modders as well, since, well, most mods just reuse vanilla AI as a base (if they even change it at all), thus end up having bad AI too.



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G-E
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You know my scripts are there to help you catch bugs...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Vanilla AI mods are designed to work with the vanilla game. Combining them with your own mod is not recommended as there are lot of things you could have changed that would break the AI mod.

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NimoStar
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Vanilla AI is also just designed to work with the vanilla game. Yet most mods use it as base to add modifications, resulting in similar issues.

Anyways, not a single AI mod mentioned yet...

(I already used bugfixers, it didn't find any anomaly)

PS: Upload the AI for reference, as you can see, I did try versioning it



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Duplicate tag/index [AITriggerTypes] => 08B9213C-G in aimdRetry.ini!
Duplicate tag/index [AITriggerTypes] => 08B9213E-G in aimdRetry.ini!
Duplicate tag/index [AITriggerTypes] => 0CAD2C3C-G in aimdRetry.ini!

To help you better, you should upload the appropriate rulesmd.ini and artmd.ini

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nimo use AICHECK already, stop guessing.

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McPwny
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i dont know if there are many ini mods that exclusively mod the ai but dont also mod rules.ini; mostly people make the mod and then the AI. All the AI modding ive done for
the vanilla game has been via the map editor

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wardeathfun
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I made several AI mods eons ago, dunno what happened to them but I did release them to the public. They all, however, indeed modded the Rules.

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silverwind
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I feel like such mods would be pretty useful for new modders. Given the lack of useful answers in this thread, please consider posting here if you do end up finding such an AI Mod.

I found a mod with a focus on AI (https://www.moddb.com/mods/acbc10-superior-smartai/downloads), however it features hidden AI-only versions of vanilla units, and its aimd.ini makes references to these units. A Replace All marathon might work to get what you want, but then it might not. Give it a go.

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NimoStar
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks, that answer actually is helpful, and helps compile the purpose of the thread even if if does not end up being what I need for my specific mod

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Another way would be, since I have the crash only with late-game Soviet AIs, to delete all attack patterns for high tech soviet units (removing teams and conditions to attack with them). If anyone has an achievable way to do that without introducing more bugs, I'm all ears.

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