Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 5:14 pm Post subject:
Making red alert 2 soviet campagin Canon
OK guys so i had this guys idea for a while can we make the soviet campagin Canon while still making the allies win ultimately? Of course this will require few tweaks to the soviet campagin story line like the premier not dying.
If you want to add your own interpretation of events you are very welcome!
So let's start off by saying that the soviet campagin will always occur first before the allies campagin missions might happen at the same time but the soviet missions will always happen before allied ones.
Starting off the first mission will be operation "red dawn" as it would make sense for the soviets to target the enemy capital most likely also the timing of this mission would happen early in the morning 7~9 AM why is this detail important? It's because the allied mission 1 should occur around noon or afternoon 12~2 PM both missions should happen on day 1 of the soviet invasion , now you may ask what about general carville during allies 1? Wasn't he in the pentagon? Well he could have been evacuated to a nearby temporary HQ as by noon the soviets would have already destroyed the Pentagon.
With the destruction of Pentagon allies command and control and communications would break down resulting in surrounding areas and counties falling in soviet hands much faster than expected , by now the soviet invasion force laid waste to new York and left a small supply base with what is most likely a company worth of soldiers in it , this is where allies campaign takes off where tanya sinks the soviet ships and the statue of liberty is destroyed , the last allies bastion in the city fort Bradley is saved by special agent tanya and the survivors found along her way you can say due to the sheer soviet firepower the American troops got split into small isolated pockets in the city one of which can be these 3 tanks which you can capture or those 2 poor GIs who we meet just after leaving the destroyed statue of liberty , even the statue defenders themselves can be a small pocket , anyway with the destruction of the soviet supply base the city is temporarily held by the Americans.
The soviets quickly move to hit Florida as the Americans there are amassing a fleet of destroyers that enables them ability to raid the east coast aided by general Vladimir the soviet commander sends the still relatively small fleet to the depths of Florida surrounding waters to party with Florida man.
8~12 hours following the sucessful defense of fort Bradley news arrive of the loss of america air base in Colorado , with tanya transferred there along with the American commander which is shouldn't take long something of a 2 hour trip from NYC to Colorado i assume (correct me on this if I'm mistaken) , with the help of a squad of rocketeers the commander retakes the air base and academy and starts amassing an armored fist to overwhelm the soviet garrison which should consist of some armored force most likely a tank company or regiment , during the operation the soviets deploy the psychic beacon in Washington with the president and carville still in the capital vicinity both succumb to its mind control powers , by the 2nd or 3rd day of the soviet invasion the first beacon was deployed.
Now the soviet commander have finished the operation in Florida and is making his way along with large amount of soviet troops to the world trade center for we all know why to deploy another beacon , using the V3 rocket launchers along with yuri psi corps and other new assets he can access the soviet commander quickly overwhelm American defenses and deploys the beacon , American troops around the city and in fort Bradley would quickly retaliate but a sucessful defense by the soviets prevents them from taking out the beacon which activates soon after rolling back the allied commander gains from mission 1.
The allied commander would have finished up the soviets in Colorado after resting a bit he is quickly called in to rescue the American president and general carville , with a small task force in hand the American strike team NOTE not full force just a strike time that needs to destroy the beacon and get out of there , why do i say a strike team? It's because the mission doesn't require you to destroy the soviet garrison nor should you it's supposed to be a swift raid to rescue the president , further confirmed by mission 6 with the city still in soviet hands , however it is possible the Americans fought to gain some ground in the city even if temporarily , I'm going to assume the Americans simply lead a harrier strike force to take out the beacon and thats it , it does require some funds which american reinforcements secure by visiting the landmarks the damaged structures may prove too unstable to enter safely which is why repairing them is required , also it is worth mentioning the presence of soviet tesla troopers along masses of armed civilians would make things difficult for the American troops who would be outnumbered , anyway the strike force successfully destroys the beacon whether it eliminates the beacon defenders is left for speculation what matters is the president and general carville are safe.
Note that the first 1-3 missions must happen in a fast pace and would be stressful on both allied and soviet commanders most likely both would get few hours of sleep before a new problem pops up , and for those who gonna ask "well what about soviet commander going back to Moscow? It takes quite sometime!" it's possible the soviet commander wasn't called back and simply stayed in America while receiving transmissions from HQ in moscow or a plane would have sufficed as the koreans by now have prepared an invasion of soviet union proper the soviet commander is hastily dispatched there to rally the defenders who judging by the start of the mission are ill equipped , with the soviet commander away defending the union territory the Americans have to deal with a new threat the psychic amplifier.
Its allies mission 4 and you have to destroy the amplifier otherwise all previous efforts to will be for nothing as it's reach is quite massive , with the American command staff and the president transferred to Canada they can give orders without threat of soviet troops lurking nearby , using the powerful destroyers and their ability to bombard the shores the commander manage to establish a beach head in the city the task is to simply destroy the amplifier not defeat the soviet defenders still the amplifier is heavily defend requiring a concentration of American forces to guarantee a sucessful strike , since it's clear that the amplifier requires quite sometime to function the Americans gather and eventually manage to destroy the device resulting in the American troops in the city getting eliminated by the detonation of a nuclear missile the losses are severe and the Americans so far only managed to secure Colorado it's clear they won't be able to defeat Ivan on their own so they start requesting backup from Europe.
By now the Korean invasion into Russia proper failed with their ships filled with holes made by soviet torpedoes and their harrier numbers growing thin the koreans abort the operation , finally the soviets can fully focus on capturing more American territory now , the problem is by this time operation dark night already happened and the 2 soviet missile silos that were used to prevent European intervention in USA are no more....the Europeans smuggled allies commander and tanya along with some spies into the polish border where the nukes are located and in span of a single night the silos were neutralized.
Now the Americans with Germany , France and UK support start preparing for a massive counter attack across the country it will take sometime to build such a capable force meanwhile the soviets realizing the European interference send a small strike team to France since the Europeans still have their troops deployed along the polish border fearing Soviet retaliation the fools left the country defenseless with this small task force in Paris they quickly make their way using the city districts and it's buildings to eliminate the allied defenders won't take long until they reach their intended target the Paris tower (as it's called in-game) with Tesla troopers focusing their energy onto the tower it soon turns into a giant Tesla coil eradicating any defenders still within the vicinity of the tower those who crazy Ivan and his colleagues didn't eliminate yet were easily turned to ashes by the tower tesla powers , this initially spooked the European nations as the soviets hoped but by now the biggest threat being the nukes is gone and the soviets can't maintain a foothold into the city of Paris for long since the strike team consists of a small amount of soldiers who sooner or later will have to retreat even with the tower power on their side.
The effects of such actions terrified Europe and the allies showing what soviets can do but it was only a short term effect , now focus with me as soviet mission 6 happens which is taking out pearl harbor which in allies campaign you need to defend pearl harbor following operation "liberation" so what happened? In order for this mission to fit in we can assume that the mission did in fact happen but half way through the soviet commander was withdrawn from the field to do other tasks the soviet forces may have remained in pearl harbor surroundings and could have relocated to the west of pearl harbor instead of the south sinking the coast guards and capturing the nearby airfield it is also possible that the soviets sank the Korean fleet heading to pearl harbor before halting OR the fleet could have made it to pearl harbor along with ground troops those could be the friendly base we see in allies mission 7 who eventually get destroyed by the soviet fleet.
So with pearl harbor operation halted due to emergency report about the allies planning to strike in the union ural mountains the soviet commander is transferred immediately and handed command of the defenders surrounding the battle lab the allies target for this daring raid using professor Einstein chronosphere device the raid shouldn't take long something of a few hours during the night till sunrise deploying the apocalypse tanks the soviet commander crushes every allied strike force with ease with losses growing and gaining nothing in return the allies cancel the operation resulting in soviet victory.
Now here is the thing soviet mission 8 should happen before allies 6 and the premier doesn't die , this is of utmost importance as how would otherwise making soviet campagin Canon while allies campaign still happen? The premier may have an assassination attempt done on him but it's repulsed and general Vladimir gets framed for being the one behind it , but this contradicts the mission cutscene so it's possible that also to make the cutscene make sense in this context it would be the premier having a failed assassination attempt done on him followed by yuri servants kidnapping the premier or hiding him while saying that the premier died , it may or may not be of the premier agreement to do this but in his crippled situation he doesn't have the power to resist and since yuri mind controlled him at this point he could have made the premier do the "no general Vladimir!" thing to further strengthen the proof that it's general Vladimir who tried to kill him.
One way or another the premier has to live for this to make sense even if it requires him to have some plot armor , alright now back to business so it's soviet mission 8 the soviet commander should capture general Vladimir , using a squad of the newly deployed desaltors to pacify Vladimir loyalist infantry force the soviet commander troops loot the landmarks which got repaired during the allies strike during operation "hail to the chief" the landmarks provide incredible wealth but requires soviet troops to damage the structures to extract them with this funding the soviet commander dashes his way through Vladimir defenses , destroying the psychic beacon in the process of doing so , won't take long until Vladimir himself is captured.
Meanwhile during this infighting the allies sneak in a detachment of soldiers and engineers to repair the now ruined pentagon and using the newly gained blueprints provided by Einstein they construct a network of prism towers the soviets pay no attention to this side of the city as heavy fighting is ensuing around the white house , this explains the state of the white house as it's damaged (from what i remember) the destruction of the monuments also explains why they are in such a poor state during operation "liberation" despite the Americans repairing them prior to this.
Anyway the soviet commander leaves the defense of the city to another commander as he goes hunting in Texas meanwhile the soviet troops were weakened by the infighting but still posed a threat to the newly gained allies position around the Pentagon with heavy armor needed somewhere else the soviets were left with rhino tanks that proved insufficient in fighting the prism towers soon after a sizeable allied force lands and strengthens the defense of the Pentagon the soviet troops while weakened still put up a strong defense requiring the allied commander and his fresh troops to rely heavily on armored assaults to punch through soviet defenses with many vehicles and crewmen lost to soviet terror drones which now see a wide deployment across the front.
In Texas where all my Ex's are at , the soviets try to capture the president whom i presume choose Texas to hide in for some reason most likely it provided a very safe shelter which even Canada couldn't provide , the initial soviet attack fails and not long after a team of psi corps troopers are called the psi corps are required to go around the "Alamo" and use their mind control ability to reach the president as a head on assault is suicide the troopers slowly make their way to the president utilizing allied assets found in the surroundings of the Alamo , the process takes time and here comes another lore question mark well how does it happen that if you successfully mind control the US president he seems fine in US mission 8? There is 3 possible outcomes i thought of in this mission
1-the psi corps take too long that the Americans notice them and the president escapes
2-the psi corps get killed
3-the psi corps actually manage to mind control the president but for a short time during which some secrets/plans are extracted from the president before the psi corps have to flee the scene or get killed.
Each of the 3 outcomes still suggest the mission happened but either way it didn't go as planned , now the Americans have restored Washington and general carville finally got his office back , with the soviets on the defensive they restart their operation in pearl harbor why now? It's possible that they wanted to consolidate their gains surrounding pearl harbor or waited until blueprints of a nuclear silo got to them whatever it is they decided now is the time to hit the American navy , with the allied commander present to defend the place this time the soviets despite a nuke assisting them get defeated and lose many ships in the process but not before claiming the lives of many defenders with nuclear strikes and sinking many American vessels nonetheless the Americans take this round.
With problems rising left and right the soviet commander is tasked with the most important tasks , although they are slowly losing ground in the US they may still control some parts of the US but this may not be the case anymore as a new threat emerged the allies constructed a weather control device in some remote island the place is heavily fortified and will require the soviet commander to build a large landing force to get the whereabouts of this new super weapon , with allied commander occupied in pearl harbor the weather control device defense is handed to another commander who despite all his efforts eventually lose the device due to a direct tactical nuke by the soviet commander constructing the nuke and gaining the whereabouts of this device was made difficult by the terrain that slowed down soviet base building efforts and the limited resources this gave the allies ample time to continue pushing back the soviets slowly in the states , with large amounts of soviet troops occupied in taking out the weather control device along many soviet ships too having finished this task the soviet general is yet to rest after such a grueling operation....
The soviets in USA have now started again using psychic beacons to consolidate their positions in the remaining territory they had left in Missouri a beacon remains which special agent tanya and allied commander should take care off , by now the soviet commander reached moscow in which he was to grace yuri by his presence , before being contacted by zofia just to reveal that yuri will attempt to kill the commander , well we hit a hall again what about the premier clip that reveals it all? Possible explanation is the premier assumed he would have died at this point but by sheer miracle he has survived , but still under yuri control now yuri attempts a coup and another infighting breaks out in Moscow where central command and control is this event causes the soviets present in the US to lose contact with high command with the chaos unfolding in mother Russia heart the soviet soldiers stationed in the US are most likely left very worried and incapable of concentrating , with morale going down it enables the allies to quickly take over large swaths of land from the soviets , the "red revolution" most likely lasts a few hours , taking the mission nature into account however these few hours resulted in so much chaos that the soviet troops in the US are eventually pushed back , by now the beacon is destroyed and soviet forces are forced to retreat or surrender.
With yuri presumably dead the premier is found most likely in some remote hideout in Moscow imprisoned by yuri or safely survived whatever befell the Kremlin that night , back in shape up again and having lost the opportunity to take out the US the premier starts preparing for land invasion of Europe starting in black forest Germany , meanwhile in Mexico the remaining soviet troops who retreated from Southern USA are attempting to gain prism technology the attempt is swooped aside by a quick and decisive raid by a SEAL team.
Around this time Einstein decide to deploy a less powerful version of the chronosphere in Alaska this catches the eyes of yuri and this Intel is passed down to the soviet commander who rallies his troops and leads them to Alaska what the soviets didn't expect is the large presence of allied gap generators which makes it difficult for reconnaissance and the weather hurting communications the commander would receive only a single transmission from zofia before he has to face fierce allied resistance , Einstein most likely realized his mistake in that Alaska may not be suitable for chronosphere deployment but now the soviets invade black forest which the allied commander using squads of mirage tanks crush soviet heavy armor thanks to the incredible firepower of these tanks , along with making scouting difficult the soviet troops present in black forest are ill prepared for counter attack by the allies due to poor scouting made difficult by the shape shifting allied tanks and are soon defeated.
The soviet commander operation takes longer than expected with stiff allied resistance who are now tasked with buying time for the epic allied plan make life difficult for the soviets and gap generators conceal the location of the chronosphere meaning the soviets can't possibly locate it and destroy it with a nuclear strike , instead they have to land and preach heavily fortified defensive belts one after the other in a uphill battle against masses of well fortified allied prism towers , kirovs prove difficult to use as allied patriot missile systems are deployed en mass and shoot down multiple kirovs , the combination of all this results in heavy casualties for soviet commander armored corps his only saving grace is a tactical nuke and an iron curtain which is usually used to preach the line of defense still the advance is very slow giving the allies ample time to execute their plan.
Einstein decides to deploy another much more complete chronosphere in Florida but soviet forces nearby make the situation unbelievably difficult , the soviets strike the allied base from multiple sides preventing the allies from venturing out of their base the allied commander quickly organize an effective defense while constructing the allies ace , soon the soviets reveal their trio nukes that if active would lay waste to the allies base with their new radar satellite building the allies locate a safe location for chronosphere usage won't take long for the device to fully charge transferring some allied tanks notably the prisms and mirages to make short work of the soviet defenders by destroying an exposed nuclear the reactor the soviet nukes are temporarily shut down giving the allies more time to teleport more troops to cuban land where the nukes are , after amassing enough troops the allies strike vaporizes the nuclear silos ending soviet threat near the chronosphere location.
By now the soviet commander isn't receiving any communications from Moscow or anywhere else cut off from the world and facing harsh weather he has to lead his troops to ultimate victory or so he believes , closing in to the allied base the commander believes that victory is near and just few more allied defenders and the target will be in his scope , back in the free world the allies prepared the invasion force into Moscow a plane carrying a SEAL team is supposed to pave the way for the grand invasion force the initial phase goes smoothly but soon the allies will face the soviets wrath , tactical nukes , kirovs , iron curtain tanks will decimate allied troops left and right despite the losses the allies continue using the weather control device previously destroyed by the soviet commander but it's blueprints still survives meaning the soviet commander operation only delayed the full deployment of this new super weapon , along with the weather control device the chrono legionares start targeting vital soviet infrastructure slowing down the soviet ability to fight back against the allies.
The soviet reinforcements outside Moscow are taking long to arrive the defenders are on their own against an endless stream of allied reinforcements using the chronosphere , piece by piece the soviet guards are eliminated until only the black guards remain these elite guardsmen destroy and kill many allied attackers but eventually are overwhelmed with the Kremlin exposed tanya moves in for the kill or "capture".
At this point the soviet commander finally cracked the allied defenses and located the chronosphere deep within the allies base a nuke is prepared for the destruction of their target it won't take long until it's launched and after a long slog the soviet commander can rest.
Having with him a large quantity of soviet troops he heads back to Moscow now the soviet ending can be explained as the commander Falling asleep and dreams of becoming the new premier only to be interrupted by yuri calls which freaks him out.
At this point he should arrive in Moscow to find the premier captured where he goes into hiding to avoid capture by the allies , needless to say he must be pretty disappointed that this long operation while sucessful didn't win the war probably it should have took 7-10 days which is perfect time for the final 3 allies missions to take place.
And this gentlemen is how i think we can canonize the soviet campagin while still having the allies win the conflict it does require some changes in the script and context of missions but i think overall it makes sense.
If you spot any plot holes/want to add any ideas or have any feedback don't hesitate to write them down would love to see them! _________________ SQUARE ENIX REMAKE FINAL FANTASY 2 QUICK_EDIT
Oh yeah uh i forgot seen it's been since early 2020s i last played campagins , so the allies also chronosphere platoons of tanks in operation "polar storm" aka soviet mission 12 these also realistically speaking would slow down soviets advance even further as they would disturb soviet rear operations.
Also in terms of casualties which can be it's own separate discussion i believe America not the ALLIES only USA suffered the heaviest losses both military and civilian as we see throughout the game the country is devastated and infrastructure would be pretty much in some states entirely gone or may very well be so damaged it's non functional anymore.
I say northern states would suffer less damage than the rest of the country as probably they held little strategical significance.
We need to remember that the soviets weren't defeated in a head on engagement the allies swooped into Moscow and that's it so militarily speaking the soviets didn't get defeated fully even if US invasion failed so that's something to remember allied fans , shout out to my fella soviet fanboys love you comrades! _________________ SQUARE ENIX REMAKE FINAL FANTASY 2 QUICK_EDIT
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Making red alert 2 soviet campagin Canon
