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What do you beleive?
Are you a Creationist?
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 25%  [ 6 ]
Are you an Evolutionist?
54%
 54%  [ 13 ]
Or are you both?
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Venom
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:18 pm    Post subject:  Evolution VS Creation Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

PLEASE LET THIS STAY IN THE MAIN FORUM, PLEASE.



allrighty now thats done and over with

WHO BELEIVES IN EVOLUTION? RAISE YOUR LEFT HAND
WHO BELEIVES IN CREATION? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND
WHO BELEIVES IN BOTH? DONT DO ANYTHING

[ Edited by Tapek, fixed annoying title. Smile ]

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

wtf is the about, life, games, nothing?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you know what it is about Dooffy

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sincerily, it's a topic to the religion forum, but I will keep it here in this time. And, as for the topic, evolution is all the way. It's everywhere and no one can deny it. We do not live in a RPG world where monsters are summoned from nothing or magic creates cells...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i never said anything about rpg games, i'm for one all against them, but i never said magic or monsters

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I to am an evolutionist, it just cant be denied that evolution is continually happening and seems the most likely explanation.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If only banshee were wrong (About the monsters summoning and magic makin cell's) life would be perfect.

Ok enough of dreaming. I agree with banshee evolution is here to stay and should not be interupt.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

monsters and magic doesn't sound too perfect to me. (especially the monsters part, though magic could be cool).

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2003 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

moving swiftly on it's still evolution for me.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

okay i'm going for pessimist but thats not on the list

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hurrah for Canada!

I'm firmly planted in both. The normal evolution of bacteria is impossible in the time frame that we have (Actually, bacteria could have evolved yet. It's take over 12 trillion years for all the enzymes to randomly organize from a primordial soup), so that's not possible, but evolution is a proven scientific fact which we cannot ignore.

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Tratos
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kane wrote:
The normal evolution of bacteria is impossible in the time frame that we have


Thatis the time frame we know of, there's always the possibility that it wasn't evolution or a god (any of them), im talkin UFO's and little green men #Beammeup-alien but that's a different topic so i'll stop here.

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hellfire
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I alway's said we evolved somewhere else and we are actually a colony here on earth planted by another race. So I stick to evolutionist.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that is a popular theory Hellfire, but only a theory. Darwin rejected his theory after being tried in a court of law, and he said that it was foolishness

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The same court that judge Galileu and many others? They were obligated to reject or die, but Darwin's theory wasn't perfect, it was improved later that to the current theory which is scientifically accepted.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Darwin himself rejected it as well Banshee

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

His initial theory was rejected because it had some wrong stuff in it, however, the current theory was inspired from that one and is currently accepted by science.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.........................

i have look at the post for a whbile, and now i actualy read it, catwithvengance is acting like i hate him. i dont really care if we fought in the old PPM forums, because i really cant remember, so lets just leave the past behind us. and let this post get back to what ever it was meant to be. and i still dont knwo what it is supposed to b

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've gone by that theory since Grade 9 science just after we did astronomy my theory has a few other thing's added in it but that's the main Idea.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Tratos: That's true. At the moment, though, there's no real firm evidence of alien interaction with earth so I leave it out of my theories.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kane wrote:
At the moment, though, there's no real firm evidence of alien interaction with earth so I leave it out of my theories.


But would we find it if there was?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

can i have some help from others here? i know there is other Christians here so speak up please, help me out like last time

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK, I have to say this....

WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF THIS ARGUMENT????

There is no way that the question of 'how we were created' can be answered by anyone in these current times. About the only way this will be definitively settled is if God comes down from the heavens and performs some miracle or other but even then we'd probably question it as special effects or something. You can argue one way or the other but this questions IS NOT going to be answered by us or anyone else. I don't know what effect you're trying to achieve here cat but maybe that' just me.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it is fun to disprove on another on "facts" from a differeent era

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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can i have some help from others here? i know there is other Christians here so speak up please, help me out like last time


Im a Christian. I believe in god, Jesus, and I go to church on saturday mornings.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ok thank you TS, oh one thing not to be mean or disrespectful or anything but just because you go to church doesn't mean a thing, thank you though

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lol

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you can go to church all your life and it wont do a thing for you

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

oh well skip those last remarks please

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

NO #$%@en shit moron. You think my dad makes me go to church? No I go because I want to, its a time of whorship for me. Do you think I have no faith in god? Not only do I have faith in god but I have love for god. And if YOU dont have that, than your wasting your time.

Sorry for the offensive words, but im very touchy on the subject of god.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ok, TS, next time reduce the insults, since insulting a forum member is against the forum rules... (I'm getting pissed at all these insults already).

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I said I was sorry. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

*sits in the timeout corner*

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Tratos: that's true, but on the other hand, if Aliens were visiting earth, wouldn't we know if from their laughter?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Gotta p0oint there. We prolly would no, Unless they were like Vulcan's from star trek and they don't laugh.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The way i beleave it is a g0d created us but he created us with the ability to evolve thats just my two cents on it...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aliens: Look at those stupid humans! AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH *laughs so hard he explodes*

Actually, that'd be a good defense against any possible alien threat!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that's true. All die of laughter. Well one less threat to our world to worry about.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if only there were aliens ...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

who knows if they really exist?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it is better to assume that they dont than to say they do and have no proof

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not really you should really look like an idiot to beleive that no other life exist's in our vast universe

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

To think that there's no possibility of life anywhere else in the universe makes you look arrogant and foolish, and I'd strongly advise against it.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

well you know what? i dont care about your advice, i dont care if i look arogant and foolish because unlees you find life from another planet that is living when you find it then show it to me i wont change, and even then i wont change

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

havent you seen the dead microbes from Mars?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So, you're saying, even if we prove that aliens exist, you wont believe they do? Though I normally disapprove of people who believe in religion too much, you gotta admit, that's some hella faith Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It does say in the bible about being life in other places(I fogot where it said it in the bible). But it doesnt really go into detail about if got created it not. So yeah, I do believe theirs life in other places than Earth. But IMO these fat headed aliens and flying discs are a bunch of bs. Theres no hard prove evidence on video to prove they exsist.

Also, I would just like to add that the end time is soon(but still might not be in my lifetime). In Revelations(last book from the bible), it speaks of a great war. Revelations might seem werid and hard to understand but everything in it represents something, such a beast representing a country.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the end times are near yes, some people think it will happen in 2012 and there is a significance about that date but i cant remember right off the top of my head

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

just like they said it would happen 9/9/1999... and I laughed a lot when nothing happened... There is no way to foresee the apocalypse, unless a meteor comes straight to Earth... and depends on its size... because constantly small ones comes and get destroyed before reaching the surface...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

An "Apocolypse" requires not only the existance of a god, but the existance of a god that actually gives a crap about what goes on in this crappy third rock from the sun. God(s) are probably disgusted with us by now #Tongue

As for the bible--within I include revelations and such--it's just as likely to be true as, for example, the myths of the greek gods, and the myths of the norse gods. When you get right down to it, the Bible is just a book of myths, so it's less likely that it's truth, and more likely that it exists as a sort of moral teaching. The same as Pandora's box, and such.

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