Genetic Mutator Technology

Wolf Dane · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:29 am Post subject: Genetic Mutator Technology

Well ok I know i've been preaching against yuri recently but with thorn on holiday he ask me to put forward a few questions

First off ist it possible to change what the genetic mutator super weapon turns ur poor infantry units into, for example instead of brutes, maybe iniates or virus? im sure its just a simple act of changing the code but can some one clear this up for me 'cus i dont have my YR disk installed at the moment *NEW PC YAY!*

Secondly is it possible and i think it maybe but i would like to check it out, that you can create a genetic mutator gun? im pretty sure u could its for alittle side project for the future so anyhelp would be much appreciated.

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John Galt · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:59 am Post subject:

Yes and yes.

Wolf Dane · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:09 am Post subject:

thanks decoder at least i know it can be done m8 thanks alot

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thorn · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject:

O.o

heh heh heh... excellent......

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raderaze · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject:

On DCoder's web site there is the what is MakeInfantry tutorial, using the tuturial i was able to make the VirusGun and Virus Cloud create Brutes ...however i discoverd that the Brute were AI grey remapping and attacked every thing including my units i suggest caution.

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thorn · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:40 am Post subject:

lol, there is an easier way to do it you know... take the war head for the genetic mutator, copy the code, and set the area of effect to somthing like 2 cells...

it works.. trust me Razz

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:

well thorn ol' buddy as u so quaintly put it in my fuel sirbomb topic u need to balance it out..... having uncontrolable brutes does sound rather funny, i would actually love to see it happen especially to a yuri player who's a tad over confident in their abilities..... and no this is not a dig at anyone who plays as yuri, well not quite anyone, u dont get quite away with it thorn old boy

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thorn · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:52 am Post subject:

what i was saying, was that the way i suggested would make the brutes player owned and not AI...

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Allied General · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:57 am Post subject:

if the cloud creates brute it f*cks up cos

the brute mutation animation needs an owner to recolor properly, you get extremely glitchy graphic.

To overcome that, simply attach the animation number for brute mutation onto the actual weapon warhead, not the particles.

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:05 am Post subject:

cheers general much appriciated

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thorn · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject:

and so..... have you sorted it?

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raderaze · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:23 am Post subject:

what happened is i gave the makeinfantry tag on the viurs death animation.with out reaizing teh gas cloud used the same animation ( i do not use viruses well or often) the viurs spawns a brute but the brute remains there in the couds and dies the resulting death animmation produces the grey remamed Brute wich usual then comes and kills my virus.... though thi has prompted me to attempt creating a virus cloud based weapon droping it in the middle of enemy infantry would be funny also i have not noticed any graphical abnormalities or internal errors .. my lack of experince with the mechanics prehibits a more indepth explination

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thorn · Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:12 am Post subject:

raderaze wrote:

what happened is i gave the makeinfantry tag on the viurs death animation.with out reaizing teh gas cloud used the same animation ( i do not use viruses well or often) the viurs spawns a brute but the brute remains there in the couds and dies the resulting death animmation produces the grey remamed Brute wich usual then comes and kills my virus....though thi has prompted me to attempt creating a virus cloud based weapon droping it in the middle of enemy infantry would be funny also i have not noticed any graphical abnormalities or internal errors .. my lack of experince with the mechanics prehibits a more indepth explination

lol, sounds like u got it sorted eventually tho....

can u post the code for it...?

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Allied General · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:09 pm Post subject:

when u mutate something there is a animation of the victim transforming into the brute, the animation is remapabble but since there is no owner you have a 2-3 secs of glitchy graphic badness.

You probably didn't notice it cos you produce a lot of gas, lol.

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thorn · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:12 pm Post subject:

please forgive me if this makes me look like a complete idiot but...

If with the warhead that raderaze made, the animation gives no owner.... then how is it that the full scale genetic Mutator Super Weapon, gives an owner straight away...

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John Galt · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject:

Hardcoding.

thorn · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject:

???

explain what u mean plzzzzzzz

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Tyler Adams · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:11 am Post subject:

Special coding, like the amount of superweapons..

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thorn · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:35 pm Post subject:

o. sh**

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:25 am Post subject:

ahh yes the age old problem...... Hardcoding.... is their anyway we can bypass the hardcoding and still get the same affect as a gentic mutator but on a lot smaller scale?

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thorn · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:00 pm Post subject:

thorn wrote:

lol, there is an easier way to do it you know... take the war head for the genetic mutator, copy the code, and set the area of effect to somthing like 2 cells...

um....

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:28 am Post subject:

so ok i skipped a bit of my topic, i was just checking out the lasted posts........

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thorn · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject:

in theory it should work, cu it just makes the same WH, just on a smaller scale...

not tested yet tho...

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:37 am Post subject:

why dont you test it? im having fun testing out my pelican drop ships!

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thorn · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject:

when i get to grips with coding a bit more i will...... untill then, anyone is free to test....

also, WTF is a pelican drop ship?

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject:

hehehehe a unit from halo which i found a voxel for! hehehehehehehehe will post some pics of it nxt week when im off my training course folks!

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thorn · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject:

O.o

o. now i know what u mean lol

nice #Tongue

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject:

i thought so, i had 8 of them each carrying 10 fully promoted navy seals....... now am i paranoid or am i insane!

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:11 am Post subject:

Oh thorn old boy have you got the Mutator gun working yet?

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thorn · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject:

he he yeah.

so simple.

all i did was change the virus WH infantry death type...

from

infdeath=8 *ie virus pop...*

to

inf death=9 *ie Brute transformation

#Tongue

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:19 am Post subject:

and they perfectly transform, fully colored and controllable for any self-respecting yuri player..... hehehehehehehe i know im not a yuri player but i tried it out anyway and it was a laugh!

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thorn · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject:

so simple, yet so effective

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:31 am Post subject:

I know and some people were worrying about the hardcoding about it! hahahahahahahahahahahaha not to worry the gentic mutator technology has now been down scaled and this calls for a new yuri unit prehaps something along the lines of our toxin soldier?

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thorn · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject:

SHH!!!! dont give too much away man...

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:19 am Post subject:

ooops sorry thorn i had had a few drinks when i posted that post!

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thorn · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:43 am Post subject:

all done and new unit added.

problem solved

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Allied General · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject:

Wolf Dane wrote:

and they perfectly transform, fully colored and controllable for any self-respecting yuri player..... hehehehehehehe i know im not a yuri player but i tried it out anyway and it was a laugh!

The gas will cause the error not the weapon warhead attached to gun

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:07 am Post subject:

well there was no gas mainly because the gas effect was related to the infantrydeath=8=virus pop sequence

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thorn · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:39 pm Post subject:

Allied General wrote:

Wolf Dane wrote:

and they perfectly transform, fully colored and controllable for any self-respecting yuri player..... hehehehehehehe i know im not a yuri player but i tried it out anyway and it was a laugh!

The gas will cause the error not the weapon warhead attached to gun

Go Figure

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Wolf Dane · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:39 am Post subject:

Allied General wrote:

Wolf Dane wrote:

and they perfectly transform, fully colored and controllable for any self-respecting yuri player..... hehehehehehehe i know im not a yuri player but i tried it out anyway and it was a laugh!

The gas will cause the error not the weapon warhead attached to gun

well the gas only appears as part of infantrydeath=8 for which is the viruspop now if u work on that theory and me and thorn have, well thorn discovered this at like 11.30pm at night he called me while i was recouvering from a booze session. He then said that the gas which apears from the virus guns bullet only apears when using a certain infantry death animation i.e Infantrydeath=8 now it then makes sense that if u change the infantrydeath=8 into infantrydeath=9 which is the brute mutation folks that there will be no gas from the body beacuse the body hasnt exploded and what will remain is a perfectly colored and controllable brute for ze ever annoying yuri.

Ta Da!

@thorn: dont shoot me old boy but had to explain how u did it so pps would understand ok? well to bad if its not ive already done it now

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John Galt · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:02 am Post subject:

Newsflash, none of this stuff is new or original.

Wolf Dane · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:24 am Post subject:

newsflash decoder u sent me and thorn in the wrong bloody direction mate when we asked you about it, and it was only by accident we managed to discover how to do it. no offence mate but the way u were suggesting was to bloody long winded and flashy are way was simple and effective

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John Galt · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:28 am Post subject:

Suuure... Here's a quote from the page I linked in my first post:

Quote:

You can create multiple weapons that result in the same effect as the Genetic Mutator as long as they all use InfDeath=9

Just shows me how carefully you read stuff.

thorn · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject:

DCoder wrote:

Newsflash, none of this stuff is new or original.

and this really show's how u want to help other ppl that might not know as much as you might.....

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John Galt · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject:

Documentation like ModEnc and my sticky thread "Useful References" is designed for this very purpose - to reduce the amount of repetitive questions.
Sadly, every newcomer thinks he's unique, rules don't apply to him and thus he is not supposed to read anything, a question he asks is unique and has never been asked before and answers should be given to him on a silver plate.

Wolf Dane · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:27 am Post subject:

Hey decode have you ever heard of the rule respect others work? geez in the end thorn and i actually figured it out on our own which wouldnt you agree is a good thing now WIPE THAT SUPERIOR ATTITUDE FROM UR FACE BEFORE I DO MATE!

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John Galt · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:01 am Post subject:

See, you wouldn't have had to bother, had you read my post. Since you didn't, I am starting to think that "figure it out yourself" can be a perfect reply to your next questions. After all, if you don't read what we reply, why should we bother to reply?

Wolf Dane · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:10 am Post subject:

heres a reply for you.... pompuss asshole..... and i dont care about the spelling or if i get banned for saying my opinion . oh and just reading back up the post YOU decoder did NOT suggest we look at ur site in the first place, secondly you turn round and said after thorn asked about changing the warhead to the genetic mutator warhead you sed it was the hardcoding to the weapon and ive seen ur site about the gentic weapon or LACK OF IT. so personally decoder i think ur a ztyping stuck up two faced fraud who tries to bloody show off!

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John Galt · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:47 am Post subject:

I did not link you to my site, that's true. Because I linked you to ModEnc, whose knowledge base is far superior to that which I have on my site. And I quoted stuff from that exact ModEnc article that I linked you to.

However, since flaming is not allowed in PPM, I'm forced to lock this topic.