Internet Explorer 7 Beta 1

DeathRay2K · Commander **Joined**: 01 Sep 2002 **Location**: Canada

I've been playing with the new Internet Explorer, and did a few tests with its new features. PNG alpha works well, although it seemed a bit slow to me. Pages load quite quickly, although this is probably because its so integrated into the OS. tabs work very well, probably even better than in Firefox. I don't like the MSN Search bar, but I think it can be removed. CSS2 isn't completely supported, but it does slightly better than in Firefox. Here you can see two of the little tests I did. |

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

ah looks like micro$oft actualy did some work to the IE series lol.

Havoc · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject:

Hmm, I got so tired of waiting that I didn`t visit Microsoft's site to see the news. I don`t care no more. I'll move to LinSpire so to hell with Windows.

DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject:

Well at least Microsoft did SOMETHING. Usually they do nothing.

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Banshee · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject:

Honestly:

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Clazzy · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject:

Lynx, the real man's browser. Saying that, I'll never use it, even as a last resort.

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DeathRay2K · Commander **Joined**: 01 Sep 2002 **Location**: Canada

For the record, I always use Firefox, except when I have to use IE. At the same time, I like to stay on top of technology. An unreleased Microsoft product is a great way to do so.
Based on my experience with IE7, however, I will probably be using it quite a bit more often.

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Ackron · Commander **Joined**: 19 May 2004

Clazzy wrote:

Lynx, the real man's browser. Saying that, I'll never use it, even as a last resort.

silence linux user your evil is not welcome here! *brandishes a silver amulet of the windows logo at you and splashes you in water blessed by bill gates*

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D · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:38 am Post subject:

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silence linux user your evil is not welcome here! *brandishes a silver amulet of the windows logo at you and splashes you in water blessed by bill gates*

Praise The Gates. :p

BTW, anyone know how to make msn open firefox to check emails rather than IE?

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Clazzy · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:59 am Post subject:

Don't knock it until you've tried it, ackron.

D, is Firefox set as your default browser?

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D · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:52 am Post subject:

Yes, checking emails is the only reason i have to use IE atm.

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Clazzy · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:11 am Post subject:

http://dallas.sark.com/SarkBlog/kcunningham/archive/2004/11/23/511.aspx

Here you go. I don't actually use MSN so I can't check for you, but this says it'll work.

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Havoc · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:42 am Post subject:

Ackron wrote:

Clazzy wrote:

Lynx, the real man's browser. Saying that, I'll never use it, even as a last resort.

silence linux user your evil is not welcome here! *brandishes a silver amulet of the windows logo at you and splashes you in water blessed by bill gates*

Linux will destroy Windows so stay safe in front of your pc till it's too late! #Tongue

A cool browser I used was Konqueror. I used it a bit and it's quite interesting, but I'll stick to FF (anyway I don`t have room on my hdd for Linux, for Linspire I'll have, by deleting WinXP ) #evil

D · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:23 pm Post subject:

Thank you Clazzy, that plugin works like a charm. Smile

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Kravvitz · Commander **Joined**: 25 Mar 2003 **Location**: USA

DeathRay2K wrote:

tabs work very well, probably even better than in Firefox.

How so?

DeathRay2K wrote:

CSS2 isn't completely supported, but it does slightly better than in Firefox.

Better?!? What do you mean better?

This is what they plan for IE7 Beta 2: Standards and CSS in IE7

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DeathRay2K · Commander **Joined**: 01 Sep 2002 **Location**: Canada

Well, tabs are, in my opinion, better handled than in Firefox. I especially like the 'New Tab' button that is always there, as a tab. And they are used by default.

the tests I did showed that IE7's results were closer to what it should have looked like than Firefox's.

Neither browser did it 100%, or even 90% correctly. Nor did Opera, another browser I tried.

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Kravvitz · Commander **Joined**: 25 Mar 2003 **Location**: USA

DeathRay2K wrote:

Well, tabs are, in my opinion, better handled than in Firefox. I especially like the 'New Tab' button that is always there, as a tab. And they are used by default.

There are extensions for Firefox to do the same things.

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=firefox

DeathRay2K wrote:

the tests I did showed that IE7's results were closer to what it should have looked like than Firefox's.

Neither browser did it 100%, or even 90% correctly. Nor did Opera, another browser I tried.

Did IE6 render it the same as IE7?
Please show me the pages you tested with.

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John Galt · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:

He used this (the screenie in first post Wink

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http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Test/CSS2.1/current/

By the way, nice to see you back Smile

Painkiller · AA Infantry **Joined**: 18 Jun 2005 **Location**: England

Havoc wrote:

Hmm, I got so tired of waiting that I didn`t visit Microsoft's site to see the news. I don`t care no more. I'll move to LinSpire so to hell with Windows.

Whats Linspire? and to hell with IE Get Firefox damn you!

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The DvD · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:27 am Post subject:

Opera = a faster, more secure Firefox with a load of extensions already installed. Firefox users are noobs, nuff said.

Painkiller · AA Infantry **Joined**: 18 Jun 2005 **Location**: England

stop callin firefox users noobs are you callin banshee a noob then?

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The DvD · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:33 am Post subject:

Yes, when it comes to selecting a browser. Wink

(i have the feeling Banshee couldn't care less about this Smile

) Also, try to learn to not take everything literally. That is also quite n00b.

Havoc · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject:

Opera is cool, I really like it, but it's so-cool-interface stresses your pc (well, you have a high end pc so you can`t notice that). I might be wrong though. I think I found the problems that made my pc to work as hell (the finaly burned HDD, I think)
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Clazzy · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject:

Opera may come with some of the extensions of Firefox as standard, but the idea of Firefox is that plugins can be added for anything, you're not limited to what comes with the original program. By the way, unless you're opening a huge page that shouldn't be allowed on the internet due to the mass bandwidth usage, why should you care about speed? You're on broadband, aren't you?

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The DvD · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:56 pm Post subject:

Havoc, i'm running Opera here at my friend's house on a lame 800mhz pentium, it runs faster than firefox. Tests prove it, btw.

Also, opera comes with so many stuff you don't really need plugins. I do agree though, if you really want exotic stuff, FF might be the way to go. Installing all these plugins takes time, though.

Also, about speed... duhhhhh clazzy, its determined both by connection speed, and browser render speed, obviously i'm talking about the latter! I also really like that when you press 'back' in opera, it pops back immediately without refreshing. This saves a ton of time. If i want to refresh, i can always do so manually. I can also set the reload time for every tab with 2 mouseclicks.

Clazzy · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject:

Well my Firefox has the following:
Gmail Checker.
Weather Forecast.
FTP Program.
Translation Tool.
Wayback Machine.

They're my main plugins, and I don't think you can get most of them on Opera, can you?

I won't deny that Opera isn't fast and secure, but Firefox beats it in many other respects

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Havoc · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:53 pm Post subject:

The DvD wrote:

Havoc, i'm running Opera here at my friend's house on a lame 800mhz pentium, it runs faster than firefox. Tests prove it, btw..

What Opera do you use? If 8, then I can blame the "Made in China" tags on my pc's components #Tongue

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The DvD · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject:

It's 8. And Clazzy, i would rank those plug ins under exotic ones. For 1,2,4 and 5, a simple bookmark to a site does wonders. Also, Opera can be configured so, that entering "g Tiberian Sun" will result into a direct google search on TS. Also, I can integrate websites like your translator into a Web Panel, which i can expand by clicking on a 10px vertical bar on the left side of my screen.

FTP support is nothing special. Opera also supports mail, newsgroups, IRC, and RSS natively.

BTW, I'm not sure if there is an opera version for linux.

Havoc · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject:

If it would IM's too, besides IRC. I'm sure there is a Linux version on the net. But anyway, what I really hate at Opera: ADWARE! The ads anoy me at least.

Browser FTP support is a stupid idea if you ask me. FF and IE have crappy FTP browsers (FF's crappier).

Kravvitz · Commander **Joined**: 25 Mar 2003 **Location**: USA

I'm using 18 extensions in Firefox, currently. Most likely over half of them provide a feature that Opera 8.0x doesn't. If you're interested in the list, I would be happy to post it.

Havoc, you could buy Opera to remove the ads.

The DvD wrote:

It's 8. And Clazzy, i would rank those plug ins under exotic ones. For 1,2,4 and 5, a simple bookmark to a site does wonders. Also, Opera can be configured so, that entering "g Tiberian Sun" will result into a direct google search on TS.

It's nice not having to have a Gmail page open all of the time;.
Firefox has the searchbar.

Perhaps we should just agree to disagree.

The DvD wrote:

BTW, I'm not sure if there is an opera version for linux.

Yes, Opera, like Firefox, is available for Linux.

The DvD wrote:

Firefox users are noobs, nuff said.

Why does that make us noobs?

DCoder wrote:

He used this (the screenie in first post Wink

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http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Test/CSS2.1/current/

Thanks. I don't know why I didn't just check the URL in the screenshot.
Maybe I've gotten used to people obscuring the URLs in screenshots I look at...

DCoder wrote:

By the way, nice to see you back Smile

Thanks

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Havoc · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject:

Kravvitz wrote:

Havoc, you could buy Opera to remove the ads.

Well of course I can buy it, but I prefer to use [warez] than to waste my money on a browser. WTF? Most of the browsers available on the internet are completely free. And most of the comercial ones are unpopular, useless, dumb, etc.

Edited by Kravvitz.
Sorry, I don`t really like the word "warez" cuz I'm forced to use them.

Kravvitz · Commander **Joined**: 25 Mar 2003 **Location**: USA

We discourage the use of warez here. Mad

I agree that there is no point in paying for a web browser. I was only pointing out that you don't have to see the ads.

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Havoc · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject:

I know. I know. (for both lines I mean)
I'd do anything to not use warez, but I gave an example. I didn`t give a link or anything ilegal. Now finding warez is easy, but I'll shut up. Also nobody try to PM me to ask me how cuz I'll just delete the message.

*edit*
Now back on topic: I'll give Opera a try these days to see how it works. At the first view it looks promissing.

*edit2*
Well, I'll agree with DVD on one thing. Opera = Faster. It loaded PPM's homepage faster than FF.
Looks better without that ad. Way better. Well something is missing: no more romanian languege pack (I don't give a [censored], but here in Romania, the only english ppl do know is made out of english bad words spelt in latin)

DeathRay2K · Commander **Joined**: 01 Sep 2002 **Location**: Canada

Yes... Warez bad... *Looks shiftily back and forth*

Seriously though, don't use 'em. And whatever you do, don't look around in my first post for a link to something pertaining to the topic, it isn't there! *Again looking shiftily around*

Nice to see you around Kravvitz!

Now.
Opera is faster.
Firefox is more flexible
Internet Explorer is omnipresent.

So you see, they each have their own advantages.
Opera has speed, Firefox has personality, and Internet Explorer has numbers on its side.

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The DvD · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject:

Hmm I should have said "most FF users are noobs". Obviously, without plugins or anything, Opera is a much better/more complete package.

Clarkson · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject:

I feel offended, DvD.

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Havoc · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:09 am Post subject:

Well, I'm starting to like Opera. It's fast. It's really good for modem users. I used Opera 7 when I was on a 56 kbps modem and it worked faster than IE.

daTS · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:26 am Post subject:

The DvD wrote:

Opera = a faster, more secure Firefox with a load of extensions already installed. Firefox users are noobs, nuff said.

Opera+My Computer=Really wierd computer sounds...

Opera doesnt like my computer... and IE lags my pc like a dad with a twelve-year-old kid stuck to his leg... FF was the default browser when I got this biscut.. and it only likes firefox... it hates everythin else... and I hate that.. cuz FF has this REALLY bad habit of saying that TumSun doesnt exist XD

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DeathRay2K · Commander **Joined**: 01 Sep 2002 **Location**: Canada

Really? I've never had that problem. :-/

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daTS · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:32 am Post subject:

It also has a habit of doing this X(

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Von Kriplespac · General **Joined**: 01 Sep 2004 **Location**: Somewhere

Opera Sucks.

NOW THATS how you get the word across. :p

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Painkiller · AA Infantry **Joined**: 18 Jun 2005 **Location**: England

The DvD wrote:

Hmm I should have said "most FF users are noobs". Obviously, without plugins or anything, Opera is a much better/more complete package.

If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all.
You got that punk? Laughing

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Dean · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:52 am Post subject:

Woot, nice Painkiler #Tongue

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The DvD · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject:

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VW x frt · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:53 pm Post subject:

Firefox... sucks!

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

hmm i dont think it does. it works fine for me, no problems, i do also use opera at times, but not all the time. each has it good points and bad points.

Havoc · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject:

Someone finally said it. I totaly agree with TShyper. What we need is hybrid between IE, FF and Opera. That would be a perfect browser.

DeathRay2K · Commander **Joined**: 01 Sep 2002 **Location**: Canada

What I need is an extension for Firefox that lets me switch to Opera in the right-click menu, and vice-versa for Opera's right-click menu. There's one for IE, so why not one for Opera? Neutral

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Painkiller · AA Infantry **Joined**: 18 Jun 2005 **Location**: England

IE Sucks as hell anyone who still uses that is a moron i don't get any crappy pop ups with firefox not one and vw x frt you had too say firefox sucks didn't you? well what do you use?

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Nuclear General · Scorpion Sniper **Joined**: 30 Apr 2005 **Location**: USA

VW x frt wrote:

Firefox... sucks!

AGREED COMPLETELY.

Painkiller wrote:

IE Sucks as hell anyone who still uses that is a moron i don't get any crappy pop ups with firefox not one and vw x frt you had too say firefox sucks didn't you? well what do you use?

IE 6.0 is the best, and I have to say, IE 7.0 beta sucks, its the worst browser ever, same with FF. They wont do nuffin to help, Ive tried em both and they wont load a page fully.

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