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C&C: The First Decade FAQ? Watch out!
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Banshee
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject:  C&C: The First Decade FAQ? Watch out! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Today I've sent an email to Aaron Kaufman with all doubts that I had about this First Decade DVD. I've gathered 15 questions, covering gaming, patches, windows XP, modding and even OMC. The email was too long for him, so he barely paid attention to more than 2 lines from it, but he managed to reply with an attempt to gain some time and rewrite the questions and answers. So, I'm posting them here for, in case they appear in their FAQ, you know the original questions. Prepare yourself: Long text detected!

(Note: I might have made some spelling mistakes, as usual. English is not my native language)






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"Hey Apoc,


The november 4th announcement of the Command & Conquer: The First Decade has divided the community. While it's a great oportunity to become able to buy all old C&C games at once with a cheap price, some had higher expectatives of a new game and there are always those who thinks that it's another cash grabbing action. Anyway, I hope you can answer the questions below (at least some of them) to clarify some of the doubts that have arisen on C&C fans. Note that these questions are more focus on a fan point of view, which includes modders. The answers for these questions will be shared with every website related to Command & Conquer, through CnCCommunity.net (Webbies).

As far as I could understand (and please, correct me if I'm wrong), C&C: The First Decade will come with one DVD containing all Command & Conquer games for PC, except Sole Survivor and an extra material (interviews, videos from fans, etc). There is a dev team dedicated to make the games compatible with this DvD and with Windows XP.

Here's the questions:


Gaming focused questions:

1) Will EA release patches for those who currently own C&C games to update their games to run on windows XP? And if these patches are released, will they run on old Windows (9x/NT/ME/2000)?

2) Louis Castle informed on his interview that all games will already be patched by default. In january 1999, Westwood Studios has 'leaked' (since it wasn't officially released) a patch 3.03, also known as redalert99, which was available or supported at http://www.westwood.com/games/ccuniverse/redalert99. This patch removed (or would remove) the need of Westwood Chat to play Red Alert on WOL. Will Red Alert come patched with it, or 1.08?

3) Will this DVD and its games run on older windows (9x/NT/ME/2000)? (Note: I know Generals does not run on Windows 95)

4) Will The First Decade players be able to play the games online with those who own the original games?

5) Will the documentation be modified to mention XCC Westwood IRC Server instead of Westwood Online or even mention?

6) Is there any possibility of patches for any game before or after the release of Command & Conquer: The First Decade, considering that there is a dev team dedicated to it?


TD Bugs: http://www.planetcnccom/obelisk/bugs.shtml
Some RA1 Bugs (with cheats): http://ra.afraid.org/html/extra/cheats.html
Some RA2/YR Bugs (although he forgots to mention the president IFV): http://www.deezire.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5361
YR Ballance Issues: http://www.cncseries.com/articles/?28
Some ZH Bugs #1: http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=5626
Some ZH Bugs #2: http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9397
ZH Modding suggestions: http://wwwcncden.com/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1130186793&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&
Some TS Bugs: http://www.tiberiumsun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2364&view=previous&sid=d80e1236a03e0c04e57ebb20af2afd3f
(And also, if you sell or power down your tech center, you can still build its technology. Something that no longer happened RA2's battle labs)


7) Is there any possibility of fans listening to remastered musics, from those created by Frank Klepacki (check his site at http://www.frankklepacki.com and his news about the musics available in iTunes) or improved sound quality, specially for older games?

8) Is there any possibility of fans being able to play older games on higher resolutions (1024x768, 1200x800 or higher)?

9) The internet gaming on the games pre-Red Alert 2 had a limit of 4 players per game. In that time, 56k dial up was still a news and conections from players were much worse than they are today. Is there any possibility of these programs allow 8 players in a game by default?




The next ones are more focused on modders:

10) Although Firestorm has added more features for modders, Westwood has also cut few things which wasn't used by the game. One of them is the Category=AirTransport which allowed modders to build aircrafts that transport passengers properly (instead of 'dancing' in the air when loaded with passengers). These lines were simply commented out and there are still reference to AirTransport in the game.exe (according to those who used a hex editor). In 5 years, no one has found a descent work around for this issue. Most solutions either have a dancing aircraft that can parachute passengers, aircraft that take off and land to drop each passenger, 'invencible in the air' aircraft or even the loss of Hover MLRS. Is it possible to remove the comments from this function? It would benefit more than 20 mods that are under development today.

11) Is it true that Tiberian Sun once had a feature that recorded games in a 'record.bin' file (or something similar) and it was cut from the released versions?

12) Will Yuri's Revenge 'gamemd.exe' be modified?

13) Zero Hour, the only mod friendly C&C RTS, allows new factions to be built, however, the maps made in world builder have a little annoying limitation: AI only works with about 15 factions. After that, it does nothing. This limits modders to make a maximum of 3 new factions. Is there any way to increase or remove this limit?



Miscelaneous questions:

13) Is there any chance of EA adding the top 3 maps from Open Map Competition (for each game: Firestorm, Yuri's Revenge and Zero Hour) in this DVD?

14) Other than Louis Castle interview and fan home videos, what else will be included as extras? Anything that can be revealed to us?



Thanks in advance for reading (and hopefully replying) it and sharing these answers with the whole C&C Community!"

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Note that the Misc question 13) was suposed to be 14) and the 14) was suposed to be 15). But, here's his reply:




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"Hey Banshee,

Thank you for this long e-mail. I will add it to the Q/A list that I am going to publish on our official site. I am not going to hand all the answers to one site alone, rather I will publish an official document that everyone can see at once. I appreciate the effort here however, and will be sure to get these all answered. There are definitely a lot of questions, but the bottom line for us, is this is a great value for the community and those dedicated to the series.

And it's already been said by Louis, "you haven't seen the last of C&C", so everyone can relax a bit. We certainly are dedicated to the franchise. 23 million copies of C&C sold doesn't just float on by our minds :o)

Aaron Kaufman
Community Manager & Marketing Liaison
Electronic Arts LA"

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So, that's it.. I'm looking foward to this Q/A, because I trully doubt that half of these questions will really be featured on it. And, as I've told him in my email, I really published both emails in the webbies, but I'm not going foward on spreading it around, since none of the questions were answered yet.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i wonder how they want to get everything on a single dvd? (or is it something double layered?)
as imgs of TS+FS and RA2+YR take something above 4 gigs...

and old games in higher resoultions...
don´t think that they want to make this
but a 800x600 for td and ra1 would be nice...

looking forward to q/a too

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think there will be DVD's for each series. 1 for TD+Covert Ops, 1 for RA1 + Counterstrike + Aftermath + Retaliation, 1 for RA2 + YR, 1 for TS + FS, 1 for Generals + ZH and 1 for bonus. It's gonna be a bit of a compilation, like C&C Worldwide warfare was, but with DVD's for each different engine.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

*wonders what will be the price*

A DVD doesn't have room for all of those games, only if the games don't have the movies and music. So I think Alex05 is right.

Finally I have the chance to buy the original games and play them online, and mod the game I always wanted to, but which I can't: Renegade.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aye Renegade is got an awsome mod coming out: Reborn

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think it's more than possible it will fit on one dual layer DVD - You have to bear in mind compression will likely be much more effective now for on the discs than it was for the inital releases of these games. The most I belive they'll make it is three DVDs.

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Banshee
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The price (in USA) will be $39.99.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

$39.99!!! Freakin sweet!
That means I will have triples of RA2, doubles of TS,FS,YR,RA1 and Aftermath...

I doubt EA will directly answer these questions though...

Is there any idea on the release date?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

C&C: The First Decade Press Release wrote:
Scheduled for release in February 2006, the title celebrates the 10th anniversary of this innovative franchise. This special collector’s edition will include a dozen of your favorite C&C games spanning over the last ten years plus a bonus DVD of commemorative video features.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh sorry about that. Next time I will read more carefully.
I will began saving up for it.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banshee = Best admin ever.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

But, assuming it's DVDs of each series and/or a SINGLE DVD... how the hell do we get the old games to recognize the new CDs? Unless it comes with a patch for everything already installed. A bit of a "2 cd hack" as opposed to a "no cd hack"

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't see why people are assuming the games are on DVD, there has been no official mention of that at all.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

is the first decade being sold in australia?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

j4m3sb0nd wrote:
Banshee = Best admin ever.


Motion seconded and carried. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Firestorma wrote:
is the first decade being sold in australia?


Yea, it will certainly be sold there too Wink.


And thanks for everyone who thinks that I'm "the best admin ever'. Maybe you guys need to research some other admins too Wink Laughing. There are a lot of sites with great people behind it. Some might be even more dedicated than I am.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No way. You pwn.

OMG, almost 40$? Damn, I won't be able to buy it only after I move from hell.... my country.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey, at $5 every two weeks, i can afford it in 16 weeks!!! Very Happy
But I have 30 to 40 dollars currently available to me...(probably will be gone by end of month)

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Damn...I would so want to buy it, but...WHY THE HELL DO I HAVE TO LIVE IN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GLOBE!?!? will I ever even have the oportunity to see it?  Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You'll only need like 2 DvDs....

RA and TD and TS and RA2 (including expansions) are only about 1 gig....

Generals is like 3.4 gigs, so, dual layer for generals, no probs Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if it is available in my country, i'll get it imediatly Very Happy  than i can finally play ra2 and ts vs. my mom  Laughing

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