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Playing all C&C games on Vista
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Dutchygamer
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject:  Playing all C&C games on Vista Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have been reading many posts from ppl who can't play all C&C games on Vista. That's odd, because I can. So I will share my way of playing the games with y'all.

What do you need:
-Original TS/FS
-Original RA2/YR
-Original Generals/ZH
-TFD

I know, it may look rather odd, but from TS and newer, you can use the original games instead of TFD. For TD and RA1 your need TFD, because neither XP nor Vista can run those original cd's.
What do you need to do in compability mode for what game:
-TD (TFD): Comp mode Win 95, resolution of 640x480, admin mode*
-RA1 (TFD): Comp mode Win 95, resolution of 640x480, admin mode
-TS/FS (original): Comp mode Win 98/Me, admin mode
-RA2/YR (original): Comp mode Win 98/Me**
-Generals/ZH (original): Nothing special required, works OK

I didn't mention TW, but that game can run on Vista any way, because it was created for XP/Vista...

Notes:
*=maybe it's just my TFD, but I need the original TD disk to run TD. This was with my XP computer too, so this may be a TFD problem.
**=you don't need to have this comp mode, but it does improve the gameplay when used.


If you have a better way to play all C&C games, please tell me, and I will change this post...
I hope this will help you to play all C&C games on Vista. Happy gaming!

UPDATE: tested Generals, see list above for results...

P.S.: I dunno if this is in the right forum. If it's wrong, can one of the mods move it plz Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I Don't even know why people get Vista anyway. From what I've heard and seen, It does nothing but cause problems. Rolling Eyes

Well done anyway, Dutchy! Smile

I Need to learn your real name >_> LOL

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Dutchygamer
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

In Holland it's nearly standard that you get Vista with every new pc you buy...
and my name is Richard for your interest #Tongue

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Same in Britain, but i'd never buy a premade PC so It's not a problem for me #Tongue

I tried to install Windows Live Messenger on a Vista laptop yesterday:

On XP - Download .exe, run .exe, job done.

On Vista - Download .exe, run .exe, yes I'm sure I want to run this .exe, yes you have permission to run this .exe, no I don't want to install all these other Windows Live things, wait for 20 minutes while it "Searches for other installed Windows Live components" (why?), sorry you can't install Windows Live Messenger.

I wish I was exaggerating.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ew. My vista installation of Live Messenger went quite well.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yea, i know how you feel Daz. I had Vista for 4 hours before i got rid of it, totally stupid.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aro wrote:
I Don't even know why people get Vista anyway. From what I've heard and seen, It does nothing but cause problems. Rolling Eyes

Well done anyway, Dutchy! Smile

I Need to learn your real name >_> LOL

you heard wrong.

Daz wrote:
Same in Britain, but i'd never buy a premade PC so It's not a problem for me #Tongue

I tried to install Windows Live Messenger on a Vista laptop yesterday:

On XP - Download .exe, run .exe, job done.

On Vista - Download .exe, run .exe, yes I'm sure I want to run this .exe, yes you have permission to run this .exe, no I don't want to install all these other Windows Live things, wait for 20 minutes while it "Searches for other installed Windows Live components" (why?), sorry you can't install Windows Live Messenger.

I wish I was exaggerating.

you fail at vista. ever tried disabling UAC?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It wasn't my PC and I didn't expect anyone to have made such a retarded operating system that it couldn't just run an installation for one of the company's own sodding programs without having to arse around with it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dont blame vista for your company's configuration.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My mum's Vista extracts files from archives and copies/moves from external drives at about 60KB/s as opposed to the several megabytes per second it should do. Copyinga 1MB file takes around 30 seconds. It now takes two minutes to boot (getting progressively slower with each passing week) and no matter what services or applications I remove, there's no solution. Oh, and don't get me started on the stupid memory usage both dwm.exe and explorer.exe use when IDLING (combined they used 150MB of RAM). Thankfully, being able to turn off UAC makes the torturous rape that is Windows Vista slightly less awful. If you installed it for DX10 then let me tell you that Crysis running on XP still looks fantastic, as does Bioshock. End of story.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A simple edit of Crysis's .ini files and you get Directx10's graphics on XP.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Clazzy wrote:
My mum's Vista extracts files from archives and copies/moves from external drives at about 60KB/s as opposed to the several megabytes per second it should do. Copyinga 1MB file takes around 30 seconds. It now takes two minutes to boot (getting progressively slower with each passing week) and no matter what services or applications I remove, there's no solution. Oh, and don't get me started on the stupid memory usage both dwm.exe and explorer.exe use when IDLING (combined they used 150MB of RAM). Thankfully, being able to turn off UAC makes the torturous rape that is Windows Vista slightly less awful. If you installed it for DX10 then let me tell you that Crysis running on XP still looks fantastic, as does Bioshock. End of story.


That could be memory related, Vista doubles the RAM requirement for most games so I imagine it does for everything else.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Clazzy wrote:
My mum's Vista extracts files from archives and copies/moves from external drives at about 60KB/s as opposed to the several megabytes per second it should do. Copyinga 1MB file takes around 30 seconds. It now takes two minutes to boot (getting progressively slower with each passing week) and no matter what services or applications I remove, there's no solution. Oh, and don't get me started on the stupid memory usage both dwm.exe and explorer.exe use when IDLING (combined they used 150MB of RAM). Thankfully, being able to turn off UAC makes the torturous rape that is Windows Vista slightly less awful. If you installed it for DX10 then let me tell you that Crysis running on XP still looks fantastic, as does Bioshock. End of story.

well, then maybe i got a copy made by God instead of MS, as i dont have said problems. apart from it being a RAM hog.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well it's got a gig of RAM, considering my current XP installation idles at 133MB of RAM (and I have 2GB of the stuff, I'm not miserly because I'm limited for it) it's pretty pathetic that an OS sucks up so much memory. I still can't find a good reason for using it yet, the improved multicore/hyperthreading isn't a reason when the rest of the OS is so slow as it is.

EDIT: And I forgot to mention that 50% of the time internet connection sharing and/or DHCP just refuses to work. There's no reason why it doesn't work and no apparent fix (it'll start working of its own accord) so if you're another computer on the network, have fun downloading.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Vista for me is an upgrade. I got an XP that had a bug that caused explorer.exe to use 99% of the cpu. So a few mb of ram is nothing in comparison to the drudging pace of my xp (with 2gigs of ram). I got 3 gigs of ram with my vista, and when I start up a program it is instant.

The should be an OS based on XCC mixer lol, or alteast someone should make it so you can launch .EXEs from it.

Judging from EA's recent releases, there shall be another pack that is VISTA exclusive.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Chiel, quit your Vista whoring.

Yes, I have Vista.
Yes, I know I will burn in hell for this.
No, I don't any any other choice.

On my PC I run XP SP2 - no problems there, runs perfectly.

On my Laptop I have Linux and Vista - the reason I have vista is simple: At university I freqquantly have to sue the internet, however the wifi software on my laptop is only compatible with vista, so I'm stuck using it.

Sure, Vista runs TS/ RA 2 without problems, but the rest of the software....
MSN, notepad, word, and firefox are just some of the programs that refuse to work properly (or work at all). Mind you, I keep it nice and clean, with updates and virus scans.

My favorite Vista error message so far (This is real, I shit you not):
Could not establish connection. Windows will now attempt to look for solutions on the Internet.

I'll get a screenie next time I get this error.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dutchygamer wrote:
For TD and RA1 your need TFD, because .snip. XP .snip. can't run those original cd's.

Bullshit. I can run RA1 original discs in XP SP2 without problems. Missions, movies, music, all of it works.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I find ra1 very temperamental.

I installed ra1 onto my 98 computer and it worked fine. i upgraded to 2000 and it started f*cking around, as well the sound not working. On the box, it goes on about the "Compatibility Mode" but when i view the properties, the compatibility tab doesn't exist! Neither did it on XP home and Pro.

But thank goodness they brought out TFD

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Styledatol wrote:
Chiel, quit your Vista whoring.

Yes, I have Vista.
Yes, I know I will burn in hell for this.
No, I don't any any other choice.

On my PC I run XP SP2 - no problems there, runs perfectly.

On my Laptop I have Linux and Vista - the reason I have vista is simple: At university I freqquantly have to sue the internet, however the wifi software on my laptop is only compatible with vista, so I'm stuck using it.

Sure, Vista runs TS/ RA 2 without problems, but the rest of the software....
MSN, notepad, word, and firefox are just some of the programs that refuse to work properly (or work at all). Mind you, I keep it nice and clean, with updates and virus scans.

My favorite Vista error message so far (This is real, I shit you not):
Could not establish connection. Windows will now attempt to look for solutions on the Internet.

I'll get a screenie next time I get this error.


lol, firefox doesnt work? and thats because of vista? hahahahaa, thats the first time ever i heard of that one.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Argh, ppl, please stay on topic. What do you think of my tutorial. This ain't a Vista vs all other OS discussion Rolling Eyes

@ IcySon55: I've tried it on my pc, and it doesn't start the installation progress (both on my Vista and XP pc's). Maybe it's my RA1 cd's that are bad #Tongue

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You have to use compatibility mode on one of the .exe files on the disc.
The only one that doesn't work properly on XP is the DOS version of C&C, but you can run that with DOSBox or something like that (why you'd need to when C&CGold was released for free I don't know).

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Still, this is Vista I'm talking about (and where this tutorial is about), not XP...

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, and you can still use compatibility and, AFAIK, DOSBox on Vista, so there is no problem, surely?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

*sigh*
I made this for ppl (like me) who both own the original games and TFD, and don't want to do diffcult with additional programms to get there games running on Vista... That's all Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

But if you own the original games, then just install them as they work fine, surely?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

As I said, when I put the original TD/RA1 cd's in my pc, it doesn't start installing, nor will it install when i run the installer from the cd. So I thought that nobody could, so I made this tutorial Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Let me quote this because it seems to have missed your eyes. (I'll edit it for clarity.)
Daz wrote:
You have to use compatibility mode on one of the INSTALLERS exe files on the disc.

When the installer doesn't run, it gives you bullshit about not working on Windows NT. So compatibility mode on the installer will correct that problem. Even in Vista. So edit the bullshit out of your tutorial because it's just WRONG.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A bit pissed off, IcySon?
Anyways, I was wrong, as pointed out by multiple ppl.
*requesting locky here #Tongue*

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