Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Location: North America Posts: You cannot comprehend...
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:54 am Post subject:
Opera Internet Browser
Subject description: Does it kick ass?
More importantly, does it kick Firefox's ass? Even more importantly, does it kick Firefox's ass AND face AND scrotum AND nose? And ULTRA more importantly, does it kick Firefox's ass AND face AND scrotum AND nose, ONE MILLION TIMES OVER!!!?
Sorry for the constant caps, but it had to be done. Does anyone even know anything about this internet browser?
The poll shall run for 10 days. Start votin'. _________________ Destroy to create. All for the hunt to dominate!
IN-GAME NAME: MAKINTOKE Last edited by DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr on Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:29 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
lol, I thought the topic said "Oprah Internet browser". I was like "WTF?". Anyways, google is my god, so in chrome I trust. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
The only problem I have with Firefox is that when you tell it to sort bookmarks by name it doesn't sort folders to the top.
And Opera's full screen (F11) is better.
I did originally use Opera as my main browser but it developed a bug where it wouldn't close the process when you closed the program, after a while of closing it it and opening it again later on you ended up with loads of opera.exe or whatever it's called processes running and lagging the hell out of your PC.
You had to kill it in the task manager every time you closed it which got old fast, so I switched the Firefox and haven't gone back. _________________ Last edited by Daz on Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:53 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 24 May 2004 Location: Flanders (Be) Posts:300000001
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject:
Suiseiseki wrote:
I use FireFox chiefly for extensions.
Awesome. I use Opera, and don't NEED any of these extensions. It has all that stuff as standard features.
SDKH wrote:
Fire Fox is completely superior.
In which aspects, other than "I haven't tried the other one"?
Really, I've seen a lot of "FF PWNZ0RZ!!!" posts here, but without any single reason why that would be so.
Face it... pretty much all of FF's 'cool features' and even the ideas behind most of its addons are all copied from Opera. Starting with tabbed browsing and saving opened tabs on exit. Both standard features in Opera from day one.
It took me about 10 plugins to customize my Firefox to have the same functionality as my Opera, and up to this point I still haven't found any way to make the nav keys (arrows, PgUp, PgDn, Home, End) simply scroll through a page instead of moving a text cursor on the page that constantly gets stuck inside div and table elements. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Face it... pretty much all of FF's 'cool features' and even the ideas behind most of its addons are all copied from Opera. Starting with tabbed browsing and saving opened tabs on exit. Both standard features in Opera from day one.
Yeah, and that Firefox was free from the day it was published, whereas Opera remained chargeable until 2005. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: Tiberium Research Center N27
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject:
Opera because they still have money to give it a supperior support and features. The next major release is going to be somewhat epic. _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject:
I prefer Firefox because of the extensions. Opera is faster and it has a lot of stuff that comes by default, but the extensions from Firefox are ownage. And I have to use a lot the IE tab because of the company I work for... also the download management from Firefox (with plugins) is better. I also enjoy the firefox webmaster tools plugin. Also... the Tab Mix Plus which is a must have plugin... and meh... Firefox beats Opera because of the plugins, really. But Opera is great and faster than Firefox. QUICK_EDIT
I use Opera, and I really do prefer it over Firefox. It depends on what you're looking for. I recommend Opera of course, but Firefox has many nice features aswell.
Jesus snotshitting Christ, when will you knobheads stop posting that Firefox Myths shit? It was debunked years ago, go die in a fire if you still believe it.
On topic, I use firefox 3.1b2 right now. Most useful extensions for me are NoScript, Firebug, Greasemonkey, Stylish, ScreenGrab. If you like something else, fine, have fun using it, I don't care, I won't tell you my way is better, but if you start arguing that yours is, I won't care either. QUICK_EDIT
Opera simply doesn't matter anymore for desktop users. It's share is really tiny compared to FF and IE. Even Chrome and Safari have larger market shares than Opera!
Where Opera really shines, though, is on mobile devices. I have Opera for my phone, and it's great, very easy to use, and fairly fast.
On the desktop, though, Opera is slow, bloated, and has poor support for CSS standards. Not as bad as Chrome, of course, but still not as good as Minefield or Webkit (Comparing Opera beta).
As for those claims that Firefox steals features from Opera, do some research first!
Tabbed browsing: First use in a web browser was in 1994, the InternetWorks browser by BookLink Technologies. Even after that, tabbed browsing was used with an IE shell, NetCaptor (in 1997) and others before Opera and Mozilla in 2000 and 2001 respectively. Oh, and that was version 4 of Opera; it didn't have tabbed browsing in the beginning!
Anyways, the point of Firefox isn't to have the most features, like Opera, but to have the most powerful base on which to add whatever features/extensions the user wants. I've always had that problem with Opera; it's the most bloated web browser available, full of features I would never use that just take up screen space, memory, and processing time.
In short, I prefer Firefox to Opera, but my favourite browser is Webkit. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Location: North America Posts: You cannot comprehend...
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject:
John Galt wrote:
Jesus snotshitting Christ,...
Thats a good one, I'll have to remember it.
Alright thanks for the replies. Special thanks goes out to DR2K, he summed them up nicely. BTW, any stand out features for Webkit? Never heard of that one before. _________________ Destroy to create. All for the hunt to dominate!
Webkit is the engine behind Chrome and Safari.
It offers by far the best CSS support, and it's one of if not the faster browser available.
The downsides are that it runs through Safari (So oyu have to put up with that interface), and that it's always in development, so it may not be stable (But I've never had a problem with that).
You can get Webkit here:
http://webkit.org/ _________________ QUICK_EDIT
In which aspects, other than "I haven't tried the other one"?
I Have in fact tried Opera and though it may have been compatibility issues with my computer at the time, I found endless bugs and constant crashing on most pages. Firefox however has been completely reliable the whole time I have used it. So yea, in my opinion Firefox is superior. QUICK_EDIT
Opera and though it may have been compatibility issues with my computer at the time, I found endless bugs and constant crashing on most pages.
This is one of the reasons why I used Firefox for awhile, Opera runned like crap on my computer, but then I got a new computer then I decided to try Opera again and it runned like a charm. Opera runns great on my laptop too.
I guess it was either a new version of Opera or my computer....
After a recent patch Opera has become a bit buggy again.... _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Awesome. I use Opera, and don't NEED any of these extensions. It has all that stuff as standard features.
SDKH wrote:
Fire Fox is completely superior.
In which aspects, other than "I haven't tried the other one"?
Really, I've seen a lot of "FF PWNZ0RZ!!!" posts here, but without any single reason why that would be so.
Face it... pretty much all of FF's 'cool features' and even the ideas behind most of its addons are all copied from Opera. Starting with tabbed browsing and saving opened tabs on exit. Both standard features in Opera from day one.
It took me about 10 plugins to customize my Firefox to have the same functionality as my Opera, and up to this point I still haven't found any way to make the nav keys (arrows, PgUp, PgDn, Home, End) simply scroll through a page instead of moving a text cursor on the page tha constantly gets stuck inside div and table elements.
Cool story bro. You don't know what extensions I use and as such are talking out your arse. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject:
I don't know which browser is better, because I haven't tried Opera, I use Firefox. I don't use plug-ins currently, just browsing, opening x tabs, several windows, fullscreen is OK, I am used to use it, although I have heard Opera was better when FF was in v. 2.0 (it showed text better, CSS styles probably, I don't remember well this thing). If that memory thing is true then FF is better. _________________
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Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Location: Mixing psilocybin in your drinks.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject:
Banshee wrote:
I prefer Firefox because of the extensions. Opera is faster and it has a lot of stuff that comes by default, but the extensions from Firefox are ownage. And I have to use a lot the IE tab because of the company I work for... also the download management from Firefox (with plugins) is better. I also enjoy the firefox webmaster tools plugin. Also... the Tab Mix Plus which is a must have plugin... and meh... Firefox beats Opera because of the plugins, really. But Opera is great and faster than Firefox.
Basically exactly how I've thought about this. Chrome is fine, too, especially since Google shocked me by pulling it out of beta, but it won't be on the same level as Firefox or Opera for a while. _________________
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Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Location: laptop? ... otherwise the Czech Republic -> south Moravia Posts: long int Posts;
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject:
There are some differences in html, css, javascript, etc. code reading, for example. _________________
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Just about every browser can disable JavaScript but that sucks and is retarded. NoScript is at least selective about it... and I can get ABP and Flashblock. SUPER PWN.
Firefox is good but I use it and IE7 fairly equally now. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:27 am Post subject:
DeathRay2K wrote:
In short, I prefer Firefox to Opera, but my favourite browser is Webkit.
Honestly, I hate webkit. It's the only engine that screws up PPM website. It runs perfectly on all other browsers. So, I really don't trust its CSS support. That's the only reason I do not like Google Chrome. QUICK_EDIT
Honestly, I hate webkit. It's the only engine that screws up PPM website. It runs perfectly on all other browsers. So, I really don't trust its CSS support. That's the only reason I do not like Google Chrome.
Webkit has by far the most complete CSS support.
But because it's developed as a modern browser, it doesn't support some of the more hacky things in PPM's layout, as they're trying to encourage standards-compliant code.
Seriously, I just looked at the HTML and you do some really weird stuff in there... Each link in a separate paragraph, weird table structures, blank image space-holders?! Madness! _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Opera Internet Browser
