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3D Preview of Voxels
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Do you want a seperate window for the 3D preview in VXLSE3?
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ConMan
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Joined: 16 Dec 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject:  3D Preview of Voxels Reply with quote

My suggestion is to have the 3D preview window of your voxel in a seperate window. Heres why:

1. It's easier to view large voxels
2. No need to open up the hva editor to look at it (unless you edit the hva)
3. When making the voxel itself, it will be easier to gain an overall picture of what it looks like
4. Bigger is better!

And since I started this topic, there could also be shortcuts for switching from Cross section to Full to Emp. Depth view.

Please consider this suggestion Banshee (and/or anyone else involved in the dev. of VXLSE3) Smile
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MT
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There already is one. It is "Ctrl F8" #Tongue

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ConMan
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, somebody PLEASE punch me in the face right now, Im an idiot for posting this! #Mad

But this brings up something else... the 3D preview is still slow when you put it as ctrl + f8, I thought that OSGIC or something was already applied, like the 3d preview you see in the small box! Surprised
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Banshee
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which version of VXLSE III are you using? 1.38 or 1.39.24?

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ConMan
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im using 1.39.24

I should point out that if I extend the box by about 500x500 pixels, that is when it gets slow
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Banshee
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your:
- processor
- RAM
- video card
- operational system?

And what is the voxel and face count of your voxel displayed in the 3D preview window?

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ConMan
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-pentium D @ 3.4 ghz
-2gb ram
-radeon 9200
-Xp Pro

About 16k voxels, 25k faces
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Lt Albrecht
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Joined: 25 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

radeon 9200 is problem Wink
I have a 9550 and it works ine ant higher res.
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Banshee
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is lagging your system is definitely the video card, which is the piece of hardware that the renderer most relies on. As far as I could see, it is somewhat in a similar level than a GeForce FX5200 or worse.

My laptop's GeForce 6150 slows down when I make the Kirov rotate here, specially with 2 Kirovs, which has slightly more faces than what you lagged your program.

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ConMan
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok then, guess its time for a new vid card...

It's an AGp system too, so I've gotta get one compatible with it Confused
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Blade
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get up to a Geforce 7800 as far as the Nvidia cards go but its probably going to involve ebay getting one.

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Banshee
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not worth to buy another video card because of VXLSE III, unless it is affecting the performance of other applications that you really need.

Buying an AGP card is also a waste of money. Once you need a new system, you'd better buy a new motherboard, processor, memory and a better video card.

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Orac
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is lagging your system is definitely the video card, which is the piece of hardware that the renderer most relies on. As far as I could see, it is somewhat in a similar level than a GeForce FX5200 or worse.

I have a GeForce FX 5200 in one of my computers, and there is no lag whatsoever in VXLSE III's 3D preview, even with the Kirov rotating as you described (I just checked, to be sure).

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stucuk
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have implemented the Render To Texture wrongly (Don't know not looked) and havn't forced the actual texture size to be a power of two, then you will find that alot of older generation cards will not render at a fast speed when the window is not a power of two size. Newer cards that have the power of two opengl extention are not effected by this problem.
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Banshee
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The program does render to textures with a power of two size, just like OS:VV does, unless the GetPow2Size method in OS:VV is not working correctly.

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should be. Non power of 2 textures are just top of any list of "Things which may cause lag at odd sizes".
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