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MasterHaosis
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:34 am    Post subject:  Black screens in XCC Mixer Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello guys. I have problem and need your help.
I just got new computer with windows 8.1, but I have issue with XCC Mixer. I cannot view shps and voxels from there, instead of images, I see black screens. If it is single shp, I see one black screen. If it has several frames, it shows several black screens, same for voxels.
What is problem?

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Bittah Commander
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

XCC Mixer can't find the palette files because the installation directories of the games are missing from the registry.

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh thanks guys, seems that it was my bad. I just had to set palettes in XCC, it was black by default, either it looked missing palette or something created problem..I did not have such issue in XP SP3 from old computer... But thank you to remind me about palettes, this confused me.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh, LKO, small help here. Today, when started XCC, it again showed black screen and I noticed that there are no palettes. Then I tried your method as you gave me link, I followed each steps, but when I start XCC mixer again, no pallets still. it sees LKOccallpal.mix, but does not show any pallete. In directories its still blank, even I type again, and again location c:\program files (x86)\xcc\utilities
Just after closing XCC and opening again, no paths are shown in Directories menu.

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Bittah Commander
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm guessing you're using Windows 10. I've had the exact same problem ever since I'm using Windows 10: if you're not running XCC Mixer as administrator, directories that are manually entered are never saved when you close XCC Mixer again.
So you'd think that simply running XCC Mixer as administrator is the solution, but while this does indeed make XCC Mixer properly remember and use the directories for the palettes, it for some reason completely makes it impossible to insert any files into mix-files.

So your best option is to either just place your mix-file with palettes in one of the directories XCC Mixer does remember when you start it in without admin rights (this will only be paths stored in the registry), or to manually edit the registry to add or change one of the installation paths that XCC Mixer uses if you're comfortable with doing that.

Edit:
Apparently you can easily fix this by just running XCC Mixer in Windows 7 compatibility mode. Somehow I never thought of trying that before now.

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Bittah Commander wrote:
it for some reason completely makes it impossible to insert any files into mix-files.

Programs with different right-levels can't interact with each other.
You would need Windows Explorer (or better use Total Commander) to run in Admin mode to drag&drop files into Admin mode XCC Mixer.

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MasterHaosis
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Bittah Commander, Lin Kuei Ominae, I am using Windows 8.1
So, what should I do? To run it as administrator or I need to put it under compatibility mode for Windows 8?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

LKO, I ran it as administrator as Bittah commander told me and it worked. It seems to work when I set up compatibility for windows 8. But I have problem in both cases

As you can see ,I can't see palette names. They exists as I randomly click into list, it gives me palette, but I can't see names.

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Bittah Commander
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Use Windows 7 compatibility mode and don't run it as administrator.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I did it, XCC has Windows 7 compatibility mode and still I cannot see palette names

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Are the correct directories set and remembered now? Also, have you tried selecting the palette in the small window that opens when you press Ctrl+P?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It needs path to the palettes. It will also work with registry entries. Attaching a sample. Substitute your drive
and path to the game and then merge.

Win7 compatibility is not needed, tested on Win10. No problem with making/editing mix files.



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Bittah Commander
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Windows 7 compatibility indeed isn't needed when XCC Mixer reads the path from the registry, but the paths you can manually enter in XCC Mixer (Dune 2, TD primary, TD secondary, RA and Dune 2000) are always discarded when you restart XCC Mixer and aren't running it in Windows 7 compatibility mode.

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That's why i dislike storing crap in the registry and prefer inis. You know where they are, can manually edit them and even use them when write protected.

About XCC, it stores the manually entered paths in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\XCC
Code:
(Standard)   REG_SZ    (value not set)
dir1         REG_SZ    EnterHerePathtoPaletteMix
dir2         REG_SZ
dune2_dir    REG_SZ
ra_dir       REG_SZ

So you could also manually add the keys to the registry.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, but it still won't be able to read those paths when you don't start XCC Mixer in Windows 7 compatibility mode or run it as administrator.

The problem is probably that it normally doesn't get the necessary rights to read fom HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE for some reason...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I run Total Commander in admin mode and launch XCC Mixer from within it. It retains the folder locations of
RA, TD etc. on Win10 after restarts also. Mixer exe doesn't have Win7 compatibility, neither Total Commander.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

XCC is then started with the same rights as Total Commander. Thus no separate Admin rights necessary for XCC.

I also use Total Commander with Admin rights only. Smile Windows Explorer is unbearable to work with.


@Bittah: reading from the registry is no problem, even without Admin rights. You just aren't allowed to edit in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE.
With low rights you/programs are only allowed to write all kind of crap in HKEY_CURRENT_USER.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh guys, this was problem.
First, I need to run as administrator, otherwise it wont work. it even ignores when I allow users to have full permissions in settings.
Another way to work is if I set compatibility to Windows 8.

But problem is that LKO palettes are shown under Tiberium Dawn category for some reason, yet they exist under Red Alert category, but have no names, just as I explaned. That wonders me.

But here issue is

SO, yeah it works now, but in Tiberium Dawn category, in RA category its with missing names.

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