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meselfs
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:40 pm    Post subject:   Making SHPs with 3D Apps Reply with quote

04-11-05

The guide is now up at:

http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~ben_s/Misc/3DTut/index.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20060827220645/http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~ben_s/Misc/3DTut/index.html

I'm not doing this to promote my awful webspace, but because I have this article posted in more then one place, and I want to be able to update just one set of files.

Included is some revised info, such as the proper camera and lighting.
The POV template is more seriosly useable.

Enjoy.


PS: If the url above fails, read it HERE.

Key Words: #Tutorials #SHPs #Buildings #Blender #3DModels #Media #RedAlert2 #YurisRevenge #OpenRA #TiberianSun #Firestorm 

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Mike
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe in the TUTORIAL forum ???
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, awesome tutorial. If only I had the time to read it all.

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meselfs
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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maybe in the TUTORIAL forum ???


Sorry, not very familiar with this place.


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Wow, awesome tutorial. If only I had the time to read it all.


If only I wasn't so wordy Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be taking a closer look at it later, though I suspect it says what I had already planned. ATM though I need to start studying for my drivers test.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quadrangle?.... i think you meant quadrilateral
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meselfs
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've head both. "Quad" is what I hear most, though.

Thanks, Banshee :->; but meselfs is not capitalized, and my tutorial discourages GMax.
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pft1086
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

meselfs wrote:
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Wow, awesome tutorial. If only I had the time to read it all.


If only I wasn't so wordy Sad


Nah, I'll just read it bit by bit. Might take a couple of days but I'm sure it will be worth it.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

meselfs wrote:
I've head both. "Quad" is what I hear most, though.

Thanks, Banshee :->; but meselfs is not capitalized, and my tutorial discourages GMax.


just noted now... I was in a hurry, but I couldnt ignore this tutorial. Now, I've just read it entirelly and noticed that it tells you to uninstall GMAX Embarassed. Anyway, the news has been fixed and this tutorial is great. But I will need to re-read it next time I model something to generate some cool rendering... and also, BS SHP Builder will import BMPs much faster in newer versions due to some optimizations I've made on it...

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meselfs
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banshee wrote:

just noted now... I was in a hurry, but I couldnt ignore this tutorial. Now, I've just read it entirelly and noticed that it tells you to uninstall GMAX Embarassed. Anyway, the news has been fixed and this tutorial is great. But I will need to re-read it next time I model something to generate some cool rendering... and also, BS SHP Builder will import BMPs much faster in newer versions due to some optimizations I've made on it...


That's what I thought Smile ; nevermind me, I have an irrational hatred for Discreet (don't ask why, note the word irrational).

I've been reading in the CNC Editing forum and indeed it looks like the good will soon be much better...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is really a great tut if you take the time to read through it! although some/alot of this i already knew, i did learn a much better easier technique for shadows, thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MyTrust wrote:
maybe in the TUTORIAL forum ???


Moved to RA2 Tutorial Vault

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I get a new black ink cartridge, I'll print this off and read the whole thing... looks good however I use 3dsmax, so I'll have to do some adjusting.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good tutorial, but modelling <i>can</i> be done in POV-Ray. I do it all the time! It's not nearly as hard as it looks at first, and [b]always[/b] looks better than a comparable scene done in a 3D modelling program. That's because Pov-Ray uses real shapes instead of polygons.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated.

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A good tutorial, but modelling can be done in POV-Ray. I do it all the time! It's not nearly as hard as it looks at first, and always looks better than a comparable scene done in a 3D modelling program. That's because Pov-Ray uses real shapes instead of polygons.


Well, the POV manual says that you shouldn't model with POV.

Concerning primitives, you're completely right. POV renders them as nonplanar equations (a mesh is basically a bunch of planar equations, umm, meshed together), so they do have absolute accuracy and they render fast. You should use these shapes wherever possible.

However, I'd love to see you model a nice tank or a boat or something with POV. Or better yet, a character.
Smooth yet unpredictable surfaces are the bane of modeling with little objects like boxes, cylinders, and spheres.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated, finally!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very sorry for the Necro posting..but your 3D to SHP tutorial link is producing a 404.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and I would find this very useful since i've been trying to learn 3D recently.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Not Found
The requested URL /~ben_s/Misc/3DTut/index.html was not found on this server."
Can somebody fix this? PLZ
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I knew the new link, I would fix it... but I don't know it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not use the wayback machine?

http://web.archive.org/web/20060827220645/http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~ben_s/Misc/3DTut/index.html Perhaps copying this tutorial to a section on PPM would do as a mirror.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I set up a temporary mirror, but our server chrashed, the tutorial is not availabe until tomorrow I think.

However here's the URL: http://mirror.creativegaming.net/3D2SHP
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, such 3D apps like VSE III Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mirror now works, it will be up as long the orginal source is down. PLEASE NOTE: This is an unauthorized mirror, only to serve the needs of the community!

http://mirror.creativegaming.net/3D2SHP
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicely done Gordon. However, since you have control of the server, would you mind adding a darker colour to the backdrop? I think the original article probably did anyway, since the font is a little hard to read on a pure white backdrop... I would imagine a grey to dark grey backdrop would be perfect.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Style was little bit improved -> I'll work on it @ the weekend.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original used a solid black background. Taktics' render templates were created from this tutorial actually.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I updated the CSS file, now this tutorial is better readable, I also added a note about the orginal document.

http://mirror.creativegaming.net/3D2SHP/
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From now on, this tutorial is available on ModEnc: http://modenc.renegadeprojects.com/Making_SHPs_with_3D_Apps
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is downsizer still an available download?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for pointing that out, I added it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:26 pm    Post subject: Just a thought Reply with quote

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Background

Use a plane (infinite if available). Set the color of pure blue (0,0,255).


For this I took a pic of the blue background from the Shp Builder and made it a bmp image. And used this for my plane. This way I had the exact blue from the game for rendering purposes. When I import my image from 3d Max to Shp Builder it was dead on.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gordon-creAtive wrote:
Use a plane (infinite if available). Set the color of pure blue (0,0,255).


I thought RA2 blue background color was (0,0,252) ?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the palette lets it be, yes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm new here and I don't know that much about this forum and its community, but i'm having trouble with the downsizer, i'm using blender and i can't seem to get it working, of course i could just be failing at following instructions. Help would be much appreciated. Thank You.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome.

This topic is extremely old and it's extremely likely the tools simply do not work with the newer Blender versions or your version of Windows. I'd say use GIMP and convert to PNG and then to SHP in SHP Builder, it may not be the fastest way, but it's definitely one that'd work.

EDIT: Aquired knowledge about the program in question. #Tongue
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're using this template it has nodes that allows you to render cropped images. All you need to do is to go to composite, connect Mix node to output, set correct scale and file path and hit render.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using Blender 2.76 and i mainly just want the shp transfer trait, but i know that there are limitations, thank you for responding so quickly.

Sorry for taking up your guys' time, I've gotten it to work correctly. And thank you for helping me.

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