Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:16 pm Post subject:
voxel trouble
so i create a model in blender, i bake procedurial materials onto a uv map within the blender file itself . once baked i export to 3ds.
using the 3ds2vxl i convert said 3ds file.
i then edit it to be remappable, and porform the oblgitary auto normals and smooth normals
now then i export the texture from voxel section editor. i open up gimp and edit the texture to add AA to the texture image.
i import the texture back into voxel section editor . then i get white or coloured dots on the voxel. the voxel before the exporting the texture iage didnt have white dots
experimenting with it, using auto normals moves the white dots do different locations but doesnt rid me of them. the white dots appear to be linked to thew red remap, ive started noticing it on some public release models.
how can i get rid of the white dots or colored dots on different remaps. and why is t only affecting the voxel after i import a new texture on it
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risized experiment with experimentingg with auto normals. less'ish white dots
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attempt 2. simple texturing, still yeilded white dots
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attempt 1 at textures, lots of white dots
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the voxel straight outta 3ds2vxl (after preliminary, auto normals and smoothing, so not quite so fresh outta 3ds2vl) but main thing, no white dots
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:09 pm Post subject:
You don't need Smooth Normals. It was only needed when 1.1 was the only available normalizer, but those days are looooooooooooooooooooooooong gone.
If this is about the cyan colored dots in the remap, you're safe to ignore those. Those are a VXL Viewer color calculation overflow issue, picking another remap color (excluding orange IIRC)/red (and orange) through the custom color picker will make them disappear. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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If you apply anti-aliasing to the team colour, then it destroys the purity of the team colour, at its edges, so that it becomes not team colour, at its edges, anymore. You should have applied anti-aliasing first, and then edited-in the team colour after that; not the reverse order, if I am understanding you correctly.
Anyway, the voxelizer is designed to do the team colour automatically, if you make it pure red in the material, or every texel of the texture that you want to be team-colour. QUICK_EDIT
thanks Vipr, i indeed did experiment with antialiasing the remap but i tried to do it with another red i thought was a dark remap colour.does adding a light and or noise layers to the texture in gimp, result in weird (yellowish) dots all over the voxel in game but not in voxel veiwer QUICK_EDIT
I can't confirm about the voxel viewer, because I haven't used it recently.
All I know, with some certainty, is that if you want team colour to happen from the voxelization, then the material colour or texel colour must be pure red, meaning they must have an amount of green and blue that is absolutely zero. The amount of red can be anything. Otherwise, what you intended to be team colour, could ultimately become colours from the voxel palette that are not team colour. Also, the opposite is true; what you intended to be not team colour, could become team colour. I guess this usually happens when people intend to have black, but don't quite succeed. In this case, I would say that the result would be so dark that it wouldn't matter whether it was team colour or not. However, I vaguely remember that at least some version of the voxel viewer would display this nearly black team colour as very bright, because it would display all shades of the team colour, as the brightest shade. QUICK_EDIT
so here the picture of my problem. im 75% certain that its the light and noise overlays i use in gimp to lighten up my texture. can i even add a noise overlay (in gimp) to a texture for a voxel or wll it always come out like the picture. will experiment when i have time
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the voxel with yellow dots had its texture edited in gimp, while the other voxel is untouched after 3ds2vxl
because im a newb with a shoddy workflow, probaly applicable to all your questions, in short i converted the model twice in 3ds2vxl, the smaller one i edited and like a pleb saved over the original.
i do it this way because i still cant seem to get my head around textureing, (particurly node trees and uv maps) blender has a smart UV unwrap thats adequete for me to bake procedural materials onto the model, this is handy because then during the 3ds2vxl conversion you only need the 3ds file. still experimenting on this slowly but surely
and i think its my poor choice of colouring my model in why its so dark
shit my colour blindness see's those bright colours as yellow. the dots i refer to is the brightish colours that arnt red blackish or white on the smaller voxels.
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Why is the voxel from the voxelizer so dark when the voxelizer has a feature to rectify that?
That would be Saturation then, but if it can brighten up dark (black) pixels, then Brightness is probably the most understandable word. _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." QUICK_EDIT
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voxel trouble
