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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:21 pm    Post subject:   Cyborg Commando's CYC2 header Reply with quote

I'm not sure whether this really belongs into off-topic discussion, but it is certainly more of a "meta-modding" topic than a discussion about modding itself.

Anyone who has dug in the rules.ini of Tiberian Sun will have seen that the Cyborg Commando's section header is [CYC2]. Since no "CYCO" or "CYC1" is to be found in TS, I have wondered how the numeral might have ended up there. I like to think that this is a reference to the original "cyborg commando", Volkov, who would have been the "CYCO", though I don't know what ID Volkov used in the code of Red Alert, if he even had any separate section at all.

It's of course also plausible that the Cyborg Commando going by the CYC2 header was the second version of a different unit present in a pre-release version of Tiberian Sun, perhaps that one carrying the anecdotal secondary flamethrower.

Does anyone have any information (or speculation) on this?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would rather have speculated that C1, i.e. "the first commando" refers to the Commando in TD. The Cyborg Commando was the only other unit in all C&C games up to that point to use the title "Commando", so he would naturally be "the second commando". The CY- prefix followed in order to distinguish it from the original, human commando and to make a connection with the regular Cyborgs.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess, [CYBORG] = 1st, [CYC2] = 2nd in the Cyborg=yes category.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crimsonum wrote:
I would rather have speculated that C1, i.e. "the first commando" refers to the Commando in TD.

C1 was actually the ID of the first civilian.
RMBO was the commando.

Since C2 was the pistol armed civilian (and technician) in TD, maybe it means the Cyborg Commando was created from this funny little guy. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I remember, I didn't exactly refer to the original ID, just that the letter "C" could refer to "Commando".

That would be hilarious though - the most useless unit upgraded into one of the most powerful ones Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before he got converted into a cyborg.


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