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Banshee
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject:  Red Alert 1 for Free!
Subject description: Don't be surprised if you get Tiberian Sun for free next year!
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Hello everyone! Today is sunday, august 31st, the 13rd bithday of the Command & Conquer franchise. And, to honour the date, Electronic Arts have made Red Alert 1 become an abandonware or simply freeware. Check out the picture below to download it:






Bear in mind that EA is not giving away the two expansion packs for Red Alert 1. Also, if you pre-order Red Alert 3, you get Red Alert 2 without is expansion pack.

Red Alert 1 is the second C&C game that becomes abandonware and it is just a confirmation that we'll never see a patch 1.03 for The First Decade. Interesting, heh? And next year, expect Tiberian Sun...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They totally skipped the Covert ops, too <__<

but regardless, I still appreciate them finally releasing their grip on the old C&Cs
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, I know. This is why I said that Tiberian Sun will be given away next year.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh.

Well, I've already downloaded TD (plus Covert Ops) & RA1 plus Counterstrike & Aftermath, for free. And no, it wasn't a torrent, surprisingly.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, i wonder why they are not giving away the expansion packs...

Tiberian Sun being released next year might link into Tiberium being released, or the announcement of another Tiberium era game

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we get the xpacks next year to screw us out of TS, duh! #Tongue
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't they make TS opensource or something, so Hyper can start doing funky shit with the coding.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yah, if they were -truely- letting go of these games, they'd let go of the source code so that the people who actually care can do something interesting with them - not that plenty of amazing things havn't already been done to the likes of C&C lately, but releasing the source code would make a lot of those alterations much less illegal ;]

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please, stay away from the Open Source talk, for the love of all man... -_-

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they made the games free, then why not just make the xpacks available? And I don't mean them, I mean us. All three xpacks can't be that big, just upload them.

Or is this morally wrong?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are morals? I love EA's, "but that's not all!" approach to their latest SAGE flavors. Free Tiberian Sun next year huh? Wouldn't they need to make serials? EA is pretty lazy...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cereals? Actually Tiberi-Os could be the next EA thing Very Happy .

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They would probably just include an official keygen or something. #Tongue
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to all wanting the sources of TS/RA2
please, don't get us all insane, it's a horrid beast of an engine.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That makes miau #Tongue

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well guys, see it as a nice little coding challenge...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i´ll bet next released game would be dune 2000...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Modding fourm. Reply with quote

Dose this mean we can have a Modding Fourm added here for RA1?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Doubt that. Welcome back anyway.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject:  Re: Red Alert 1 for Free! Reply with quote

Banshee wrote:
Red Alert 1 is the second C&C game that becomes abandonware and it is just a confirmation that we'll never see a patch 1.03 for The First Decade.


I agree, EA will never make something like that. That's why I (with help and resourses from Nyerguds), have been working on an unnofficial 1.03 patch. It's at Revision 2 Alpha stage, so check the 10th page of the sticky post on official TFD forums, here's a link:

http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=370687&tstart=0&start=135
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyper wrote:
Hmm, i wonder why they are not giving away the expansion packs...


Incentive to get people to go and buy TFD. They release the base game but not the expansions so people will be interested and then go pay for the extra content.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banshee, upload the expansion packs.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can find the expansions, if you know where to look Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Red Alert 1 for Free! Reply with quote

Banshee wrote:
Red Alert 1 is the second C&C game that becomes abandonware

If the actual company releases it for free, it's FREEWARE Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On that pic for downloading RA1 for free (That has the Kirov's on it...) Whats with that really small Kirov on the right side, about in the center... Looks pretty funny. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing didn't see that before you was saying it MadHQ.

A baby Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baby elite kirovs! #Tongue

I knew something looked bad in that image,but never gave attention...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that too! So that's how baby kirovs are born #Tongue
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Red Alert 1 for Free! Reply with quote

Nyerguds wrote:
Banshee wrote:
Red Alert 1 is the second C&C game that becomes abandonware

If the actual company releases it for free, it's FREEWARE Rolling Eyes



In this very specific case, it is the same crap, since EA abandoned the product officially.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't abandonware have to have been abandoned for a set amount of time before it's fair game?
I'm pretty sure TFD wasn't long enough ago for RA to be abandonware.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares? They aren't gonna milk any more money out of it they wont care unless it stops people buying Tits Alert 3 or Kane's Waffles.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im in in the middle of downloading it now a god could it any slower
im only half way threw the allied download and finished the soviet download an hour ago

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Tits Alert 3 or Kane's Waffles.


lol

i would rather thay relised the expansion and the games than just the games the oly expansion pack thay would have trouble with is Yuris Revenge
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadHQ wrote:
On that pic for downloading RA1 for free (That has the Kirov's on it...) Whats with that really small Kirov on the right side, about in the center... Looks pretty funny. Razz


Bhaha, how cool Very Happy Someone vxl it!

Damn EA. I already have RA1, I only need the expansions Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is a small kirov there? Strange
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They must have edited the picture for some reason. I cant remember it being like that in the original image. #Tongue
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's just the back of a normal kirov where the front is behind a cloud and a part of the head is displaced back.

i just wonder if EA would make another patch for those released games, if many people would complain about problems under XP/Vista.
If EA would do this (what i doubt) this could give some hope that if they release TS too, they would make a patch for the damn waveclass errors and several other bugs.
At least the release brings the games back to life and if the community grows big enough, it might be able to persuade EA to do some more work on those games.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Re: Red Alert 1 for Free! Reply with quote

Banshee wrote:
Nyerguds wrote:
Banshee wrote:
Red Alert 1 is the second C&C game that becomes abandonware

If the actual company releases it for free, it's FREEWARE Rolling Eyes



In this very specific case, it is the same crap, since EA abandoned the product officially.

Banshee, I'm sorry to say this, but please wake up! I know you are currently angered by EA not having enough resources to update ModSDKs and whatnot, but the game is 12 years old, for crying out loud. Why should they support it? 99% in the EALA team did not even work on that game, if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention that EA at least releases it for free as Win95 version that works quite easily on modern computers, even having a handy documentation for installing. Lucasarts on the other hand released their classic adventures for 10 euros apiece and did not even update them for Windows (!!!). You literally had to use third-party software such as Dosbox to make them work. So please, let's drop this "OMG EA iz teh eevil!" attitude, for it is uncalled for, and these days, simply obsolete.
Just look at UaW, it had 3 patches only, less than half a year life span and promises which were never fulfilled. The gaming market is just not very cost-effective anymore.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not calling EA evil. I'm simply stating the obvious. They won't create anymore patches for The First Decade games.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Source code please EA! And ztyping include the XPacks in giving out the source code!

Is source code to your abandonware too much to ask?!?!?!?!?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

downloading took me 15 minutes...
and lucas arts does not need to update it´s classic adventures since you only need scummvm #Tongue
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SomeGuy[YR:SF] wrote:
Source code please EA! And ztyping include the XPacks in giving out the source code!

Is source code to your abandonware too much to ask?!?!?!?!?


No need just MOD the code of one of the many Dune 2 remakes.

http://d2tm.duneii.com/
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Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
it's just the back of a normal kirov where the front is behind a cloud and a part of the head is displaced back.


Ehm, strange. Because you see the whole thing and nothing covering it.
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Yes but you can tell it was fixed up, (and crappily too I might add). There's the back of a propeller above it and the bottom of the bomb carrier below it... who knows why anyone went to the trouble of doctoring it.

And hell, who cares if we get the source code or not, anybody with enough time on their hands could very well remake the engine in whatever format they wanted.
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I'd prefer if I had something tangible to work with in order to re-create the engine, so I can use it as a guide to the final product or in cases where I'm just a little stuck use it to learn how it's done.

(Seeing as how I have yet to learn how to reverse-engineer compiled code into assembler or any other language)

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They soem cant see it


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, this is a kirov airship.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They...cut the rest off because it'll not fit in the image? lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a image straight from the RA2 intro, so they didnt touch it really... (i think)

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If you look closer,you can see 2-3 pixel zone that are not aligned there.

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