Important: Retro Doesn't Steal Work!

Banshee

Some badly intentioned network admin fabricated a post in Armageddon Entertainment about TS Retro stealing a helipad from them and other works. And the worse, they fabricated posts of 2 TSR members confirming the lie. The whole post is clearly a lie, starting by the helipad which was made by Spiderman_2099, member of TS Retro for TS Retro and another mod he works on. Also, the voxels used by the mod, most of them were showed in the Retro forums in several posts. All of them made by Retro team. Behind the scenes, such a low action happened because Firestorm left the main TS mod of that network and also that the guy was irritated with SMIFFGIG.

Guys, let's learn the lesson and let's not be as low as he was. If you have any personal problems with someone, it's always better to not include other people and/or projects in it. Thanks and let's make this community better by reducing these low attitudes. More info in TS Retro forums.

One Of A Kind · Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:55 pm Post subject:

Nice, tactful way round it Banshee I'm impressed Smile

Unfortunately you just know Vlad won't take it that way but I suppose at the end of the day what happens happens...

Tratos · General **Joined**: 01 Jan 2003

He deleted the thread about it, looks like he's backing down, but this is Vlad, he wont back down, But he will lose.

Banshee · Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:59 pm Post subject:

HAHAHAHAHA guy = Vlad

Read the log:

From Vlad's logs wrote:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA diz:
wtf are FS and smiff on?

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
a stupidity you made recently... probably

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA diz:
nah

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA diz:
i didnt do shit

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
hahaha... funny

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA diz:
I told em ill pay em back, FS for traitoring, and smiff for irritating

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA diz:
that is just step one

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One Of A Kind · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 12:02 am Post subject:

hmmm.... well I gotta say I can't wait to see what step two is, but I'm impressed, he actually still speaks to you Banshee? Wink

Banshee · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 12:39 am Post subject:

yes, but not much... only when needed... which is rare...

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Sydr0 · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:14 am Post subject:

Banshee wuts ur story with him? wut happend between you two?

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Banshee · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:25 am Post subject:

Ok, Finalmoon also asked it today, so I'm posting it here, in my log with FM:

Quote:

FinalMoon diz:
so what did he do to you

FinalMoon diz:
back in the old days

FinalMoon diz:
when you guys were partners

FinalMoon diz:
I never heard that story

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
well... first he approached very interested on helping PPM...

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
he made voxels and .shp files... (not very good ones...)

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
and always begged me and other members to access the staff forums...

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
However, PPM was in a crisis period due to 2 conflicting members (me and LC) and one day both announced that would leave it, Karreman (webmaster) closed the site...

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
but... few minutes before, he allowed Vlad to access the staff forums

FinalMoon diz:
oh m

FinalMoon diz:
oh my&

FinalMoon diz:
my*

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
in the following day, Vlad made an account in MSN cloning VPR(the UW guy) and sent me a trojan and also to Greyfox (another member)

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
and he claimed he was hacked...

FinalMoon diz:
omg

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
he convinced LC that he was hacked while Karreman prooved that his IP and hostname didnt changed

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
obviously, Vlad's access to staff forums ended with that

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
few months later, after I left PPM (due to the conflict with LC), LC convinced Karreman to give Vlad access to the staff forums..

FinalMoon diz:
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Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
all I heard is that he created a confusion over there and blackmailed LC saying he would post all PPM work he had in a site

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
to everyone download

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
in the same period, Morphix from DFC started posting news in his site insulting LC

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
and Vlad was newsposter there

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
and flamed all other PPM members in the news that were infested of lies...

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
some months later, after the split, he returned to be friend from LC and found out a password of one of the PPM staff and he got access to almost all classified forums we had

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
forutnatelly, there was almost nothing of our work there

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
although, he used one of the pictures some months later in Eclipse forums...

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
He was pissed at the research done about Superweapons in PPM... (mainly because of the credits)

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
and he faked my name there, made me look like a big n00b and posted one of the pictures he had taken from the class forums

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
fortunatelly, that picture was discarded months before...

FinalMoon diz:
gosh

FinalMoon diz:
I can only think of one really good example of something he's done to me

FinalMoon diz:
this was recently

FinalMoon diz:
Zoop had made a nice model of a mech and posted it on the arm-ent forums

FinalMoon diz:
I commented on it, said it was nice, and all that, and I asked if he was using it in his mod, and he said no

FinalMoon diz:
well, I decided I'd try to talk to him on MSN

FinalMoon diz:
and I asked Vlad if he knew what Zoop's MSN address was

FinalMoon diz:
Vlad wanted to know why I wanted it so I told him I was going to see if I could use the mech model in my mod that I was making

FinalMoon diz:
Vlad gave me the address, and I talked to Zoop, and he had no problem with it, he said I could use the mech

FinalMoon diz:
well, after a couple of days, I still hadn't seen Zoop again

FinalMoon diz:
he seemed to never come on

FinalMoon diz:
so I asked Vlad

FinalMoon diz:
and Vlad casually informed me, something like this

FinalMoon diz:
"oh, that mech model he made, you can't use it

FinalMoon diz:
it's for Armogeddon now"

FinalMoon diz:
and laughed at my face

FinalMoon diz:
he had fed Zoop a bunch of lies to get him to block me and give the model to Vlad over me

FinalMoon diz:
~_~

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
yea... and he tried to make several "peace treats" with me...

FinalMoon diz:
yea...

FinalMoon diz:
brb, 1 sec

Banshee ( check http://ppm.editingsource.com ) diz:
they were usually broken in the following day

and also, from webbies:

Banshee wrote:

hmmm... finally... it seems I'm not alone after all!

I know Vlad pratically for an year and if I had a log of what he've done against PPM, it would be huge:

- stole classified content
- blackmailed PPM several times before and after the fake one appears.
- use DFC news in order to insult PPM and ex-PPM members.
- hosts the fake PPM
- posted PPM rejected work (which he thought we would use) and inpersonated me in Eclipse Forums making me look like an asshole n00b (I still havent registered in that forums).
- made an excessive ammount of anti-propaganda against PPM

And also some recent ones... He tried to steal mods like Red Generals and TS Retro to his network.

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[QUOTE=Banshee]And also some recent ones... He tried to steal mods like Red Generals and TS Retro to his network.[/QUOTE]
& C&C:Reloaded... not exactly steal but yes talk about move my mod into Arm-Ent but I'm happy in Origin Rolling Eyes

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Banshee · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:16 am Post subject:

I say 'steal' because he takes projects out of other networks offering much more than he can really provide.

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Sydr0 · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:48 am Post subject:

lol he wanted Sudden Strike to move to Arm-ent he was saying like stuff i see a good future for ur mod there blah blah blah, I said no.

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Banshee · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 4:24 am Post subject:

he offers an incredible popularity. It's true that NOVA got it, but many others are less popular than a bunch of mods here and from the Guild as well.

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Tratos · General **Joined**: 01 Jan 2003

Truth is it doesn't really matter where your mod is, if you advertise it and people know about it, it will become popular.

DeeZeL · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:00 pm Post subject:

i cant beleive i almost fell into vlads crap..he offered me unlimited webspace, website designing and lot more crap...actually i was goin to accept..but thanks for clazzy and banshee for telling e who he really is...i guess we should warn newbs in the community to listen to him...hes bad news guyz.

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