This one? First of all, your trying to do something way too complex for beginners... Try something more simpler. Try to start first on more simpler stuff like Trucks or Cars... then bit by bit try and do more complex vehicles.
Just keep practicing. After some time you eventually get to grasp how to voxel. For starters you could try touching up the in-game ones.
Voxeling is basically pixel art in 3D plane.
X defines the Left & Right...
Y defines the Up & Down
Z defines the Front & Back.
Just like SHPs Palette 0 is always rendered invisible in-game. _________________ ~ Excelsior ~ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:38 am Post subject:
You're doing a small voxel. I could have tell you that, a usual RA2 voxel is around 40x40x80. TS is 30x30x60. I think. This also means that a single wheel should be at least 6 voxel wide, (a wheel in a track can be 4) and so on.
I usually check the voxel in VXL Viewer first, it loads the voxel with it's front face first, so it does show out if I mess up that... tho it happened only on my first voxels.
Also you're doing it totally wrong. IMO first lay down an outline, like a huge onecolored box and then carve out the actual exact look. Maybe even look into some Orac-Azri voxels. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Also... When drawing Voxels. When in Top View... The Voxel is facing to the right. So make sure the Front Part should be on the right side. _________________ ~ Excelsior ~ QUICK_EDIT
It needs a little more detail, and the turret could be smaller (it also needs to have it's turret offset), but otherwise we're getting there. I think. We used Noodle's Stingray conversion for reference.
Also, fun fact - the star's the best I could get it, taking up most of the hour and a half running time this one took to make. It's also non-remappable, contrary to photograph. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject:
The most important thing is... even if you're checking other's work, only check the points of their style, allow yourself to build up your own. Experiment and don't give up.
I know that I'm also sucking in voxels mostly, tho yea, I took my time to actually care about those voxels, I remember, I took ~5 hours with taht old Allied Mobile Factory I released both old and new version. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Not everyone starts out a master just sit there making things over a few weeks. go to the voxel section and learn how others make voxels the spotlight forum. And seriously look at voxel bounds work in HVA incase you voxel is too big you can adjust with the Hva bounds so no worries. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Shrunken voxels don't always look that good, actually. Depending on how much you shrunk (I assume more than 20%), detail will get lost. It's best if you manage to make your voxel the right size from the start, though shrinking is the second-best option. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:39 pm Post subject:
Crim, IMO Cubed AutoNormals provides good results in about 90% of the voxels. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Contributions: EE Fixpack | Enhanced Edition Trilogy | DSotSC (Trilogy) | UB_IWD | SotSC & a lot more... QUICK_EDIT
And hand-drawn normals provide good results in about 100% of the voxels (assumed they are drawn by someone who knows what he's doing). _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject:
Considering that everyone who does nornmals by hand uuses TS normal, which are usually look wonky.... yea, definitely. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:05 pm Post subject:
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I just work voxel by voxel, I try avoiding mirroring because it fucks up the normals.
Mirroring is a great resource. I usually do autonormals until the model is done, then I do any manual normal painting that needs to be done _________________ The Fall of Hammerfest - Epic Tiberian chain story
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First of all, thanks to everyone for their help and advice. It's a bit much to read and pick up on everything, but I'll get though it all eventually X3
Second off, I'm not sure if you can tell but I added a little extra detail to the frigate, AND found a way to miniaturize the turret so it's not dominating over half the hull.
The turret however still needs it's Voxel offset, which we'll figure out eventually. QUICK_EDIT
I had a bit of a problem making my voxels a little too small starting out, too. As others have said, a good way to go is to edit pre-existing voxels to get a better idea of how the textures and details work. I can't give any better advice, I did most of my voxeling in TibSun but I imagine it's not much different in RA. I have noticed that RA voxels are noticeably larger than TibSun so just keep in mind that you should make it larger than you're probably anticipating. Some people also have issues with textures but there is a large library of amazing ones to pick from on this site to study. _________________ Im Westen Nichts Neues QUICK_EDIT
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