Also Known As: ZivDero Joined: 23 Jul 2013 Location: Russia
Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:41 pm Post subject:
Neat/Cool/Crazy/Funny idea
Subject description: This is..... Red Farming Simulator!
How about remaking RA2 to a be farming simulator? You build a farm, then plop an actual crop thing with crops a.k.a. ore and your have to harvest it to get money and make more farms and use a map trigger to trigger win. How does that sound? _________________
DarkVen9109 wrote:
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_________________ Last edited by Parasite03 on Thu May 15, 2014 2:25 pm; edited 2 times in total QUICK_EDIT
I can see it now, Farm Wars! Crazy tractor/combine warfare with animal infantry, Cow level, we choose you!.
Flipside, its like those mineral games, were you focus on mining rather than obliterating your opponent. Would be neat to have wandering ore/tiberium patches _________________ Delirium.. QUICK_EDIT
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In any case, if you want such 'gameplay' there are more than enough of them around and such here would just be dumbing down the game just like EA did C&C4. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject:
There is a good farming simulator out already. It's called as SimFarm. Oh, the memories... _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Isn't this idea done..... I believe its called Farnville and to that i say
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Also Known As: ZivDero Joined: 23 Jul 2013 Location: Russia
Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 7:18 pm Post subject:
ApolloTD wrote:
In any case, if you want such 'gameplay' there are more than enough of them around and such here would just be dumbing down the game just like EA did C&C4.
I did not says I want someone to make it; I sais it would be coole. I might make it in the future. Some time.
About the wandering ore patches - sounds crazy.
BTW the point could be something but gathering money. You cold, for example, farm crops and dump them into the biorecycle center(ore refinery). Then, using war factory and barracks(with new names!) build crazy plants using the biomass and go ztype your enemy up. _________________
DarkVen9109 wrote:
What in the name of insanity is this? I FRICKING LOVE THIS LOGICCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!OOOOOOOOHEEAWWWWWWWWWWWYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW PEW PEW PEW PEW BOOM BOOM BOOM!! Nice I love this!!!! Ferriswheel bomb, Dive bomb. New Logic discovered thanks to Kenosis
well, if you want that all you do is give each player limited cash and give them a ore tree that looks like a barn.
you say it would be cool to do with the RA2 engine.... RA2 engine was designed to be a RTS war game. not some little sissy mary game engine. If you are not going to play the game as it was intended to be played, uninstall it, throw away the disc go to the store grab some my little pony dolls, put o a dress and have a tea party with yer little dolls............... _________________ I am authorized to send out the TMP Studio, PM ME IF YOU WANT IT And check this out, these were sent to me for help with terrain and zdata help along with TMP Studio/Builder
Well the idea is not bad. I mean, even Starcraft II is a war game and it still has a xxxx custom games and some of them have nothing to do with war.
I my self will make a map that is not for killing with some nukes or turn to dust with some si-fi weapons, but instead a map where units are conscripts and attack with snow balls.
Just that one game is made for war (or anything else) does not mean that it can't be made deferent.
He was just proposing it. No need to snowball him! If you don't like it say "This sucks", "Nothing to do here" and go somewhere where you like it.
No need for:
Nikademis Von Hisson wrote:
If you are not going to play the game as it was intended to be played, uninstall it, throw away the disc go to the store grab some my little pony dolls, put o a dress and have a tea party with yer little dolls...............
IMO..... yeah there is a need for it. Today's kids are pretty much wussies. They have things handed to them, the get metals for breathing, there is no competitive spirits. Looking at the topic I think this kid wuss.... Farmville seriously? ITS A WAR GAME not a girlie game. If you want a farm style game then look for an engine that deals with that kind of production. Command & Conquer is in a world of hurt if kids wanna change the best RTS game into farmville. I don't think the creators of ARES intended their work to used for p***y games. J**** F***** C***** people grow some B**** and stop acting like girls _________________ I am authorized to send out the TMP Studio, PM ME IF YOU WANT IT And check this out, these were sent to me for help with terrain and zdata help along with TMP Studio/Builder
Oh wow, someone's having some serious masculinity issues here
Anyways to the OP, code it up and give a shot, there are examples of game modes like it, as mentioned, get creative with it, thats what modding is about, making things up, experimenting. _________________ Delirium.. QUICK_EDIT
get creative with it, thats what modding is about, making things up, experimenting.
Those days are gone.
Nowadays modder only say "Ares team, give me logic XYZ" and post constant SHP/VXL/INI requests.
Just look at the currently active mod projects. Not one is done by any newbie, but all the old modders who still know how to really mod.
The community needs more SuperJoe's. _________________ SHP Artist of Twisted Insurrection: Nod buildings
This is soo silly it could actually turn into something funny, not a mod i suppose, but maybe a map or two, but the initial idea for now seems rather limited, it would be cool to have things added that at least to add some extra challenge, who knows, maybe i might try to make an map out of this.
Also, calm down guys, that's just an conspiracy to make EA create a new C&C, but with strategic advanced farm tactics... QUICK_EDIT
I thought the idea sounded fairly lame, but really Nikademis? Really? Are you really that petty?
Chances are such a project, if ever actually started, would fall flat on its face. However, I gladly welcome the creativity. I miss the times of modders approaching projects from radically new angles. I admit, this is abnormally radical, but so what? Worst case scenario, he wastes time and effort while annoying people along the way. That will likely happen anyways, so let him have his fun.
Your personal taste is no reason to shoot down his idea, and certainly not in the fashion you have chosen. A project like this will do no harm to the CnC franchise, if anything diversity helps. Using the 'intentions of the creators of Ares' as a reason? Laughable at best, even if that mattered. I remember PD making custom palettes work on animations because he couldn't get the colors right on his "dropshit" SW.
If you have problems with today's kids, there are other subsections for that. Honestly, your display here has made me favor this idea far more then I did before and generated actual interest in seeing it progress.
So Parasite, hammer away! See if you can create something unique! _________________ "It's got that Droke style to it!" QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:05 am Post subject:
You can make animals so when you slaughter them, they drop ores. Also, you can make map triggers so that when 2 animals of same breed comes together in the same cell and make more babies, then you can raise them.
Maybe you can make Farm Towers that will accelerate the reproduction time using map triggers? Thus allowing you to produce a bigger flow of credits.
Just throwing in my thoughts. I think this is doable anyway, should be interesting. _________________ Mod Leader and founder of World Domination
Also, you can make map triggers so that when 2 animals of same breed comes together in the same cell and make more babies, then you can raise them.
Not possible from what i know.
-there is no "get unit type" function for Event: "Entered by"
-there is no "get number of units in cell" function _________________ SHP Artist of Twisted Insurrection: Nod buildings
Now that you mentioned breeding, if the bounty logic comes soon the cows could fire and give you money as they give you milk.
The war miner could be turned into tractor or combine. Trucks with workers (slave miner) and gather strawberries. A map can have 4 defferent resources, right? Maybe it is worth for the fun in team game map.
Joined: 10 Dec 2012 Location: I'm too busy conquering the world!
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:35 am Post subject:
Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
Zero18 wrote:
Also, you can make map triggers so that when 2 animals of same breed comes together in the same cell and make more babies, then you can raise them.
Not possible from what i know.
-there is no "get unit type" function for Event: "Entered by"
-there is no "get number of units in cell" function
Maybe you can make one of the animal become hostile to other animal, so that when they attack, both become friendly to each other and new animal pops up on the next cell to them.
Pillbox20 wrote:
The war miner could be turned into tractor or combine. Trucks with workers (slave miner) and gather strawberries. A map can have 4 defferent resources, right?
TI have like 5 or 6, so it should be possible to have more than 4 different resource to gather the patches for more credits. _________________ Mod Leader and founder of World Domination
Maybe you can make one of the animal become hostile to other animal, so that when they attack, both become friendly to each other and new animal pops up on the next cell to them.
Triggers in TS and RA2 can not be dynamically linked during gameplay on any object.
They can only be linked to preplaced objects in the map editor.
Thus you can't have during runtime, check for specific unit, then attach trigger to this specific unit, and let the trigger affect the unit.
Zero18 wrote:
Pillbox20 wrote:
A map can have 4 defferent resources, right?
TI have like 5 or 6, so it should be possible to have more than 4 different resource to gather the patches for more credits.
Also Known As: ZivDero Joined: 23 Jul 2013 Location: Russia
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:44 pm Post subject:
It would be funny if animals used the visceroid logic. Combining animals! _________________
DarkVen9109 wrote:
What in the name of insanity is this? I FRICKING LOVE THIS LOGICCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!OOOOOOOOHEEAWWWWWWWWWWWYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW PEW PEW PEW PEW BOOM BOOM BOOM!! Nice I love this!!!! Ferriswheel bomb, Dive bomb. New Logic discovered thanks to Kenosis
If you are not going to play the game as it was intended to be played, uninstall it, throw away the disc go to the store grab some my little pony dolls, put o a dress and have a tea party with yer little dolls...............
You do know this is a modding community and that people are encouraged to not play by the rules right? I would support this kind of modding, as pushing the limits of the game engine in unintended ways is how we've been discovering new logics, etc. since day one.
If there's 1 thing no one should be saying it's what I quoted. That is the most backwards assed way of thinking that people should "play the game as intended". If we did that, there would be no TI, MO, DDay, and many other very successful mods that have been a large improvement to the community not only in gameplay, but keeping the community alive.
And if you think farming and farming simulators are somehow "girly" then you have some issues to work out, ser.
EDIT: I suppose IFV logic could work if you had genders as 1 vehicle, 1 infantry.
or
(if Ares ever gets around to unit to unit veterancy) a breeding facility [armory] where you put in kids, come out adults.
Either way, this would certainly be a strange mod, but if done well, it might possibly be learned from. _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: ZivDero Joined: 23 Jul 2013 Location: Russia
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:10 pm Post subject:
4StarGeneral wrote:
EDIT: I suppose IFV logic could work if you had genders as 1 vehicle, 1 infantry. #Tongue
or
(if Ares ever gets around to unit to unit veterancy) a breeding facility [armory] where you put in kids, come out adults.
Tihs kinda a bit pointless cuz visceroids will do. Though the breeding facility would be nice for something like you put 2 and you get 3 out. _________________
DarkVen9109 wrote:
What in the name of insanity is this? I FRICKING LOVE THIS LOGICCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!OOOOOOOOHEEAWWWWWWWWWWWYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW PEW PEW PEW PEW BOOM BOOM BOOM!! Nice I love this!!!! Ferriswheel bomb, Dive bomb. New Logic discovered thanks to Kenosis
Also Known As: ZivDero Joined: 23 Jul 2013 Location: Russia
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:30 pm Post subject:
Does it? I thought small visceroids are infantry and they combine into a vehicle...
Corn? Why not? _________________
DarkVen9109 wrote:
What in the name of insanity is this? I FRICKING LOVE THIS LOGICCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!OOOOOOOOHEEAWWWWWWWWWWWYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW PEW PEW PEW PEW BOOM BOOM BOOM!! Nice I love this!!!! Ferriswheel bomb, Dive bomb. New Logic discovered thanks to Kenosis
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EDIT: It is a Borg quote from Star Trek, so it fits better to Cyborg Commando. Last edited by ExperimenterChemist on Thu May 15, 2014 10:26 am; edited 2 times in total QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: ZivDero Joined: 23 Jul 2013 Location: Russia
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:18 am Post subject:
18th-19th century? I wish I could add a poll.
Wll, what would be nicer:
1. Old times
2. These times
3. Future
?
P.S. Thanks for the ideads, i'll read though them.
EDIT
I'd like to go away from traditional RA2 build from conyard. An Empirish style would be better IMO. You build workers that deploy int obuildings and the conyard only builds small stuff like gates, walls, farmlands etc. But it's only a matter of moving buildings from beign built from the yard to get deployed from a vehicle.
EDIT 2
Good concepts. They just need to get turned into a table with all the units, buildings, vehicles and stuff. I'll lok into that. _________________
DarkVen9109 wrote:
What in the name of insanity is this? I FRICKING LOVE THIS LOGICCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!OOOOOOOOHEEAWWWWWWWWWWWYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW PEW PEW PEW PEW BOOM BOOM BOOM!! Nice I love this!!!! Ferriswheel bomb, Dive bomb. New Logic discovered thanks to Kenosis
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