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How to add objectives ?
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EliteCadre
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:43 am    Post subject:   How to add objectives ? Reply with quote

I've always tried to figure out how to display mission objectives in the maps I make but I can't find out how Sad
Can someone plz tell me how ?

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

extract/open tutorial.ini and add new lines to it.
open the map and add a trigger with Action "11 Text Trigger" and select the line you want to display.

Note: when sharing the map, the other player needs your tutorial.ini as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't find the tutorial.ini

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tibsun.mix -> local.mix -> tutorial.ini

extract it and then simply keep it in the TS folder.
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EliteCadre
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot, I've been struggling to figure this out Smile
is there a way to make the objectives display every 10 or 15 minutes ?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Set the trigger type to 'Repeating'.
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EliteCadre
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I've made the trigger and set the event to "building exists". The building is 77 Radar, but when I capture the radar, the game freezes without showing the objective, its audio also disappears after a few seconds much like when getting an internal error, but it doesn't give me an error or anything. Also, the objectives I assigned to be displayed when I start the map do not show up, is it because I've set for it a wrong event ? (13 Elapsed time)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use the "Entered by..." action, specify the player's house in it, and attach the trigger to the radar.

As for the text trigger not working; either you're referring to non-existing (thus empty) string, the trigger is disabled or the time specified for the event is wrong.
Also since you want it to be shown immediately, you can just use the "Any Event" event.
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EliteCadre
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trigger is not disabled, although I made another trigger to disable the initial one after I capture the radar. And the time is set 0, so the trigger can fire immediately.
Thanks for the help, I'm going to try what you said Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still, nothing shows up Mad

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did everything correct, I placed the tutorial.ini as it is in the TS directory, I added the lines I want to display, and set the trigger to display the text, why wouldn't it work ??  #Mad  Sad

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The text action is broken in vanilla FinalSun. You need this fix.

This is actually a rather serious problem, I'm surprised there's no updated version of FinalSun around altogether (or does the Tiberian Sun Client come with the FinalSun fixes?).
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Final Sun I included with the client's TS build does come with all fixes from the topic you linked to and also several other fixes, such as a few clarified trigger action descriptions, a fixed place random tree tool, reading the TS installation dir directly from FinalSun.ini (Rampastring made the client automatically set the correct path in FinalSun.ini when the client is first started), updated trigger types, a far less annoying terrain placement sound (the same one I applied to the Final Sun included with DTA's builds) and possibly a few others that might have slipped my mind.

More fixes will be added in the future when other fixes (or bugs) are brought up, so feel free to mention any fixes or (fixable) bugs that might have been overlooked.
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EliteCadre
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the FinalSun in this topic, http://www.ppmforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=37844 the one you're talking about ?

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EliteCadre
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nvm it IS the FinalSun you were talking about! Finally the text now shows! I've been banging my head towards the wall for too long now and saying WHY THIS NO WORK, but not anymore  Very Happy

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Bittah Commander
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's mostly the same, although it's a bit outdated (it still has the old annoying high-pitched terrain placement sound for instance).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, most prefer to disable the sounds altogether. This is done by adding NoSounds=1 under [UserInterface]
in FinalSun.ini
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt that most will still prefer this with the new sound, which doesn't annoy at all.

Also, I already included NoSounds=0 is already in FinalSun.ini, so people can easily just change it to 1 if they prefer to do so (I'd have added a setting in FinalSun itself, but in DTA's version I could only do that because I could repurpose one of the other settings that DTA has no use for).
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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bittah Commander wrote:
I'd have added a setting in FinalSun itself, but in DTA's version I could only do that because I could repurpose one of the other settings that DTA has no use for.

You can use the useless Beginner mode setting and have it start by default in full mode.

Or use the SunEdit2k menu, which otherwise can be removed too imo.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SE2K menu items can't be used because none of them write anything to FinalSun.ini (it's actually a simple matter to add new menu items, but they can all only use already existent functions), but replacing the Beginner mode setting was indeed a good idea.
I just applied the hack and it works perfectly (although like with DTA's version, the change only takes effect after you restart FinalSun), so this hack for FinalSun will most likely be included with the TS Client's next update.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bittah Commander wrote:
so this hack for FinalSun will most likely be included with the TS Client's next update.

Could include the trigger types (AND/OR once/repeat options) as well. It wasn't there in TSClient 3.63.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were meant to be included, but it seems they're indeed missing. I applied the hack for the sound option to an exe that did include include the patched trigger and tag windows, so those will certainly be included with the next update as well.
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