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Trans_C
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:44 am    Post subject:  Trans_C's Random WIP stuff
Subject description: Trying to improve my 3d skill
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Yeah, it's time to post something!


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A Heavy Infantry for China in EASB Hour. Not animated ATM.
Low poly(poly count:992)+bad skills=Ugly stuff. But imo it's detailed enough for shp-rendering...


But I still can't decide what weapon it should use. Any advice?


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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninja turtle(
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Render looks fine, the minigun doesn't seem thematically appropriate though, maybe a mortar launcher?
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.
A protoss dragoon.
I'm trying to figure out how to correctly animate its legs, so no walking frames ATM.


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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.moddb.com/games/starcraft/addons/legacy-of-the-void-dragoon-model-and-attack-effect

Could try referring to this one?
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A humping robot? hahaha #Tongue
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really sick stuff! Please keep posting more so we can feast our eyes upon more awesomeness Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks somewhat weird now.


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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it kinda like goon1.gif but move the cross axis legs together, FL/RR move forward, while FR/RL move rearward...

That's kinda how my Arachnid voxel moves, except you have the added complexity of articulated legs.


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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that does not even look like walking. vxl is not good for making walking anims
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a freaking nice looking dragoon there mate
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote





Watch the first 4 legs animate.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2016 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tal'darim Ascendant!


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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2016 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to assume AirBurst something or Aircraft Unit?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now it walks properly, but I wonder how to put the standing frames to work.
And...
Kenosis, stop hijacking my thread!


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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure shp vehicles or infantry for that matter can have multiple stand frames.  could try checking if standframes tag works for it in the art ini
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StandingFrames can be only 1 (afaik there is no way to animate an SHP unit while standing with a certain standing anim)
Only thing i know is using  the Squid IdleRate logic, but that is using the walkframes iirc.

However, the Dragoon model looks really nice.
Any reason why you haven't used only 1 forward walk anim and rotated the entire model? I know Starcraft uses your current way with fixed body and different facing walk anim, but i think this doesn't look that nice as a whole rotated body. Would have also made the anim work a lot easier.

If i'm not mistaken, the reason why starcraft used a fixed body with different facing walk anims was also an engine limitation, due to its "16 frames mirrored along vertical axis" logic.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it seems that the standing frames are hardcoded to only play 1 frame per facing, or use the squid mode with the IdleRate= tag. This is stupid!
Well, considering that WW didn't really need a walker with four legs and two pairs of rotating b*llocks, it might be reasonable to simplify the game engine, but......it's still stupid!


Using only one walk anim and rotating the legs is not an option. When moving diagonally, it needs another anim different from when moving straghtforward. So there should be at least two walk anims(and rotating the legs four time each).


Now, the death animation and the warp-in animation.

(Daydreaming:It would be great if ARES had a feature enabling a warhead(or animation) to instantly spawn a vehicle or create a superweapon. With it we could make the dragoon teleport directly into the rally point, besides lots of other interesting stuff)


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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks great!
but where is the water of the death anim? :ccccccccccccccccc

where is sc1? u.u
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trans_C wrote:
Using only one walk anim and rotating the legs is not an option.

no, i meant rotate the entire body. Imo there is no need to have the center body always stay in the same direction.

For SHP units i only make 1 walk loop, copy that 8 (or 32) times and then only rotate the camera (with the lights attached to it) around the model to get all the facings.
Very easy, fast and efficiently done.


Excellent warp-in anim. looks really cool.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then why in SC2 blizzard keeps this?
For the same reason, didn't use the 1 loop and 32 copies.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because that's how the unit worked in SC1..? They put a lot of effort to keep continuity within the series.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Textures are now being remade.
...Do we really need a normal map for a low-poly 3d model for shp-rendering?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it surely can use some improvement. Mainly with the particles.
Camera glow is for fun. Should be removed if it get used and the materialize process should be adjusted a bit.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks nice

I'm wondering how you want to implement all the transparent effects. Are you going to split it up into separate anims and then play multiple anims at the same time with each having a different Translucency setting?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
looks nice

I'm wondering how you want to implement all the transparent effects. Are you going to split it up into separate anims and then play multiple anims at the same time with each having a different Translucency setting?


In fact we are planning to make another mod featuring protoss-ish aliens on the moon teleporting structures onto the ground(MOAR touhou weirdness!), and this warping-in animation(a bad imitation of the mothership warping anim in SC2) is how Kenosis thought the alien buildup should be.
But of course, the whole project is still only on paper, so screw it.


Next, the walking anim of the ninja turtle man....And a scrin dragoon!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, what a happy looking run anim  Laughing
the walk/run loop needs some more work as it looks too comical and unrealistic.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could probably refer to the TF2 heavy for his run cycle.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly can barely even see the legs move back and forth, looks like he's just hopping up and down in an odd fashion.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's trotting like a horse in a parade, or perhaps bouncing like an astronaut?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
lol, what a happy looking run anim  Laughing


Because he is humming "Moskau, Moskau" and is going to have a party!



OmegaBolt wrote:
I honestly can barely even see the legs move back and forth, looks like he's just hopping up and down in an odd fashion.


G-E wrote:
He's trotting like a horse in a parade, or perhaps bouncing like an astronaut?


On a side note, that is percisely how North Korean soldiers march when celebrating their leader's birthday. You can easily find it on Youtube.
...But of course, even we Chinese can find this kind of goose-stepping ridiculous and stupid.

Maybe this is better?
And the Waifu Mine, a stupid parody on the Widow Mine.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mucho betterer Smile

The mine is cute, but you should give it frog legs to jump, flip over and roll forward until upright again Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he needs some knees! his legs are too stiff and straight during the walk/jump.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G-E wrote:

The mine is cute, but you should give it frog legs to jump, flip over and roll forward until upright again Smile


it's too complicated for me...

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:

he needs some knees!


Actually, I just want them to look stupid. (just don't want to admit that i'm terrible at animating models...)


Well, forget about it. Here's another concept: Lavalryman.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

toilet?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "walking" anim of the guy sitting on a mobile toilet.
I decided to name it Clavatorier(I know it sounds stupid, but my English is poor, unable to come up with clever names).


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add a friendly face to the toilet guy.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dat's a sexy face he got.

Call it the AT-WT (All-Terrain Walking-Toilet) as a parody of Star Wars mechs?

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Maybe a stupid question, but why you don't use biohazard guy animation (from Generals) for this Chinese trooper? They are easy to extract, I guess a model like that can be rigged with them.

What surprises me in general is that I haven't seen any infantry SHPs made with Generals animations in any mod. Did anyone even try that?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damfoos wrote:
Maybe a stupid question, but why you don't use biohazard guy animation (from Generals) for this Chinese trooper? They are easy to extract, I guess a model like that can be rigged with them.


Honestly, I've tried that 2 years ago and the result was a terrible failure...Maybe I got something wrong, but I really don't know how to rig them correctly.


Damfoos wrote:
What surprises me in general is that I haven't seen any infantry SHPs made with Generals animations in any mod. Did anyone even try that?

Making infantry shps requires skills AND patience, so most of the mods decided to use public assets or modified RA2 shps instead of messing with polygons and key frames for 10 hours or so for a single Ranger. And those who are capable of making a shp may find the Generals animations look stupid, hard to rig, and make them look like noobs that don't know how to animate their infantry.

Unfortunately I fall into the miserable category of willing to do it myself but don't have the skills for it.......
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The toilet guy is finished.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toying with 3dsmax's texture systems.
The results look surprising good.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice!Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With this, maybe it's time to make a fully touhou mod...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenosis wrote:
it surely can use some improvement. Mainly with the particles.
Camera glow is for fun. Should be removed if it get used and the materialize process should be adjusted a bit.

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It reminds of something: Notice the Hexagon Anim.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hot damn those are some nice sprites and animations.

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AA Infantry


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've decided to do something with those RA2 Infantry 3d models.


Here is a concept for a conscript officer.
(Still WIP. Will be released when finished)


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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a very nice alteration.
Even though it might not be that useful ingame with that melee sword. Though i guess modders will come up with many ideas to make it useful anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea, but I don't like the sword. It reminds me of some pirate/persian/arabic dude.
It might be just me, but check for something more practical.
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AA Infantry


Joined: 17 Nov 2014
Location: Somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PillBox20 wrote:
I like the idea, but I don't like the sword. It reminds me of some pirate/persian/arabic dude.
It might be just me, but check for something more practical.


It's more of a concept of low-rank officers leading a charge with a ceremonial kossack sword(kinda WWIish but I think it's fine with the cumbersome style of the RA2 Soviets).

Maybe I'll give him another set of firing frames using a sidearm, though, like a high-tech pistol shooting rad-beam or something, so people can just make him a ranged unit.
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