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Questions about the N. Brotherhood/GDI attack on S. Africa
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Sirius007
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:22 am    Post subject:  Questions about the N. Brotherhood/GDI attack on S. Africa Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

For those that played the game, we all know that the New Brotherhood splintered off the Inner Circle due to the disappearance of Kane as well as the introduction of Cyborgs into the NOD Army

But it is never explained their views on the Drones as well as the Infector Program

What is the view on the Automated Drones and the Infector Unit?

Apparently, GDI manages to invade South Africa, the heart of NOD (Nod Mission 14: Compulsions) Shocked

Even if we assume that the Temple Prime of Africa is close to the Coastal City of Cape Town, it would have been heavily defended (The Black Hand would have a garrison there)

How did GDI (which has suffered from fighting GloboTech) manage to assault Temple Prime Africa and actually wreck the place!?

How did they get the Ships needed for an amphibious assault?

How did they get the manpower, intelligence and equipment needed to make such a Suicide Mission?

How did they overcome the countless Militiamen, Soldiers, Bunkers, Defenses, Apocalypse Nukes, Cyborgs, Drones, Infectors and the FREAKING Black Hand!?

Unless GDI threw EVERYTHING they had on the attack on South Africa AND acquire the HELP of America, Russia and so many other Nations, they couldn't have made that assault

They would not have the element of surprise nor know the inner details of South Africa

Furthermore, it would have been easy for the already numerous NOD defenders to call reinforcements from other African Nations, Latin America and the Middle-East

They would have to prepare everything just like D-Day which means that all of the forces would need to assemble in either Britain or Canada (Since the US, Europe Mainland and Russia has been compromised by NOD before Twisted Insurrection)

NOD could have found out (They have a superior Intelligence Network over GDI and GloboTech) and either attack the Force or assault undefended positions (Borders would be left undermanned)

Is there more than one Temple Prime (In Tiberium Dawn they had one in the Balkans) in the story of Twisted Insurrection?

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ErastusMercy
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sirius007 wrote:
For those that played the game, we all know that the New Brotherhood splintered off the Inner Circle due to the disappearance of Kane as well as the introduction of Cyborgs into the NOD Army

But it is never explained their views on the Drones as well as the Infector Program

What is the view on the Automated Drones and the Infector Unit?


The New Brotherhood don't use Drones or Cyborgs. They do however use the Infector, as it is seen as part of Kane's vision for humanity. That said, many of them view the Infector with a mix of awe and loathing, since they dislike that the gift of divination was bestowed upon criminals, even if they are mentally reprogrammed to the point of no longer being the individual they started out as.

Sirius007 wrote:
Apparently, GDI manages to invade South Africa, the heart of NOD (Nod Mission 14: Compulsions) Shocked

Even if we assume that the Temple Prime of Africa is close to the Coastal City of Cape Town, it would have been heavily defended (The Black Hand would have a garrison there)

How did GDI (which has suffered from fighting GloboTech) manage to assault Temple Prime Africa and actually wreck the place!?

How did they get the Ships needed for an amphibious assault?

How did they get the manpower, intelligence and equipment needed to make such a Suicide Mission?

How did they overcome the countless Militiamen, Soldiers, Bunkers, Defenses, Apocalypse Nukes, Cyborgs, Drones, Infectors and the FREAKING Black Hand!?

Unless GDI threw EVERYTHING they had on the attack on South Africa AND acquire the HELP of America, Russia and so many other Nations, they couldn't have made that assault

They would not have the element of surprise nor know the inner details of South Africa

Furthermore, it would have been easy for the already numerous NOD defenders to call reinforcements from other African Nations, Latin America and the Middle-East

They would have to prepare everything just like D-Day which means that all of the forces would need to assemble in either Britain or Canada (Since the US, Europe Mainland and Russia has been compromised by NOD before Twisted Insurrection)

NOD could have found out (They have a superior Intelligence Network over GDI and GloboTech) and either attack the Force or assault undefended positions (Borders would be left undermanned)


Compulsions is actually set in the mutated remains of Sarajevo. GDI didn't wreck the Temple base. By this point it has been abandoned for about 18 years (The abandoned buildings will eventually be replaced with ruined Dawn era ones), after the events in which Kane vanished. The incident drastically altered the region.

After completing their investigations the Inner Circle declared the area holy ground, leaving a base as an observation post to monitor the region. The New Brotherhood happen to be operating from said base during the mission.

Sirius007 wrote:
Is there more than one Temple Prime (In Tiberium Dawn they had one in the Balkans) in the story of Twisted Insurrection?


There were at least two temples during the First Tiberium War, the Cairo Temple and the Sarajevo Temple. The Cairo one is of course featured in Renegade, its ruins can be seen in Tiberian Sun's GDI finale.

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Damfoos
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If New Brotherhood doesn't use drones, what if they had a campaign-only replacement for Viper? Something like a classic MG/laser Buggy, but with TI twist. It'd add more depth. It may be something like TW/TT buggy (can even use the voiceover of TT buggy), or you can use that fancy TS buggy you've made for Rewire. How the idea?

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Sirius007
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Maybe the mission Text or Briefing should say the location and time. Getting confused

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ErastusMercy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Agreed, it's something I've brought up once or twice myself.

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Sirius007
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanjs for the response

What happened to the Nod Commander from Tiberium Dawn?

Shouldn't GloboTech be besieged by Nod the moment they sided with GDI? (It's not like they have the manpower and equipment to fight Nod forever)

The Nod Commander in Twisted Insurrection is implied to be young and sort of unimportant (Doesn't change until halfway through the Campaign)

He just goes around swatting GDI and GloboTech Rebels left and right

Based on the way both Campaigns are going, how is GDI gaining any momentum? (GDI destroys a Nod Base, the Brotherhood retaliates and destroys a base belonging to GloboTech/GDI)

I don't think every Subfaction of Nod would participate in the Nod Cyborg Civil War

-The Latin American and Asian Forces are too far away to intervene and are expanding too much into Neutral, Mutant, GloboTech or GDI territory to give a damn

-The Black Hand (most of them would be in Australia) should know that Kane can't die

Does the Black Hand have access to certain techs that the rest of Nod would not? (You don't have to show it in game)

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