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UNSC THE CHILL OF WAR
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject:  FinalTI questions Reply with quote

I could find this type of thread/topic, so i made this.

In finalTI what are the covered up machinery and unknown device? Do these appear in campaign?
Also what is the large door in the LAT tiles menu?

Lastly can the road fix tiles be rearranged so that similar tiles are together (e.g the road with pavement/sidewalk)?

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are meant for the interior maps.
IIRC the big door was meant to be placed in maps that lead in the following map into interior facilities. Not sure if used or not.

No, rearranging the tiles is not possible as this would make all maps corrupt and there is currently no tool available to automatically replace one tile or entire tilesets in a map with another. Manually fixing the maps is out of the question.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
there is currently no tool available to automatically replace one tile or entire tilesets in a map with another.


I beg to differ. Granted it's not fully automatic, you still have to tell (and know) what to replace with what but it's not like we have some sort of artificial intelligence thing to infallibly make that decision for you anyway.

Although I'd say rearranging stuff is not necessarily best idea anyway. You could fix official maps but it would still break all fan-made ones. Oops.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, haven't noticed. Nice.

So can i set
Old: temperat.ini
New: temperat.ini
Conversion/mapping table:
TileSet001 (from old temperat.ini)->change to->TileSet005 (from new temperat.ini)
TileSet003.Tile04->change to->TileSet007.Tile05
for multiple map files?
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E1 Elite
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you can replace one tile or whole tileset with another. Only dimension
should be same.

Once you make a profile, it can be applied to as many maps you want.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it stands the conversion profiles (their contents are documented here anyway) work with tile indices, as in raw numbers representing the position of a particular tile in the whole of all tiles in that theater - which is what is in map tile data, it doesn't know about tileset numbers.

The command-line version of the tool can be used to extract this information (specifically, the range of tile indices covered by each tileset) from any theater configuration INI file, rest is just math and filling the numbers in.

Not the most user friendly I admit, but this is the downside of the choice that I wanted the actual conversion process to happen without the tool knowing about game's theater configuration, only what is in the map.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds good enough. And surely easier (less error prone) than parsing the ini.


btw, since you can decode the map and put it back together, any chance you could create a simple map combine tool? One which takes one map and copies it into another map at a certain position.
e.g.
you have two 255x127 maps and then combine them to one 255x255 map (since FinalSun is unable to edit such big maps, while the TS engine supports them just fine)
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UNSC THE CHILL OF WAR
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are you supposed to use the interior gateway? The cliffs are different colours and they dont fit with the actual cliffs

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't, at least not for now. Maybe you'll see them updated and in use in 0.8.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

0.8?! I thought 0.7 hadn't been released

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct, but the gate will yet not be featured in 0.7. Naturally the next release after 0.7 will be 0.8, hence my previous post.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather than make a new thread/topic,i just use this one.

If i was to make a single player mission (not multiplayer), how would i be able to play it?

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E1 Elite
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Place the .map file in Maps\Missions folder. Then make entry in
INI\Battle.ini for both list and details.

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